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    Default Ambigous maternal great grandmother

    I was told that her father was a russian man and cossack, that he was fair. Now from my results I dont get russia really. And it looks like Im not enough eastern european. But I get Hungary and Ashkenazi. Maybe this man was a part jew from Hungary? Many ashkenazi jews hide their real identity from nazis.

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    Note: It is about the woman on the pic and her FATHER not the man on the pic who was her husband, the man was just a gypsy

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    “Shave off the hair of kufr and get circumcised.” ( al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood; see also al-Mughni, 1/276; Sharh al-‘Umdah by Shaykh al-Islam, 1/350)

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    A Gypsy from Hungary?
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDorian View Post
    A Gypsy from Hungary?
    What do you mean? Did you read what I wrote?
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    “Shave off the hair of kufr and get circumcised.” ( al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood; see also al-Mughni, 1/276; Sharh al-‘Umdah by Shaykh al-Islam, 1/350)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    What do you mean? Did you read what I wrote?
    Yes i did

    Maybe Gypsies in Hungary were mixed more with Jews...
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDorian View Post
    Yes i did

    Maybe Gypsies in Hungary were mixed more with Jews...
    Why do you assume he was a gypsy when I was told he was russian and fair. It looks like you are trolling. Or just stupid.
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    “Shave off the hair of kufr and get circumcised.” ( al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood; see also al-Mughni, 1/276; Sharh al-‘Umdah by Shaykh al-Islam, 1/350)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Why do you assume he was a gypsy when I was told he was russian and fair. It looks like you are trolling. Or just stupid.
    Not realy trolling

    So you say your great grandmother's father was fair and you believed he is Russian but now suspect he is a Jew from Hungary because of your results?
    Anyway what was your great grandmother's maternal ancestry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDorian View Post
    Not realy trolling

    So you say your great grandmother's father was fair and you believed he is Russian but now suspect he is a Jew from Hungary because of your results?
    Anyway what was your great grandmother's maternal ancestry?
    Her maternal ancestry was gypsy. So she was 50% gypsy in any case, the rest is correct. It is about her father really. But I dont have his picture though.
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    “Shave off the hair of kufr and get circumcised.” ( al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood; see also al-Mughni, 1/276; Sharh al-‘Umdah by Shaykh al-Islam, 1/350)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Her maternal ancestry was gypsy. So she was 50% gypsy in any case, the rest is correct. It is about her father really. But I dont have his picture though.
    Ah ok

    The question is if you assume he was Jewish could you hypothetically figure out or calculate what your results would need to look like under that assumption
    and then compare your hypothetical results to the real ones you actually got?
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDorian View Post
    Ah ok

    The question is if you assume he was Jewish could you hypothetically figure out or calculate what your results would need to look like under that assumption
    and then compare your hypothetical results to the real ones you actually got?
    I have 5% Broadly European. I dont know where that fits. That could fit into Eastern European or into Jewish. Or into a combination. 2% is also unassigned. But if he were fully jewish I would need to be 6-7% ashkenazi but Im only 1.4% so maybe he was russian but part jewish. There are many jews in russia. I dont know who else could be jewish because all others are brown as fuck and jews are not brown. And they are typical gypsies.
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    Mark 13:33 — “Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is.”
    (5:56) "Whoever allies themselves with Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers, then it is certainly Allah's party that will prevail. All who ally themselves with God and His Messenger and the believers will be victorious."
    “Shave off the hair of kufr and get circumcised.” ( al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood; see also al-Mughni, 1/276; Sharh al-‘Umdah by Shaykh al-Islam, 1/350)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I have 5% Broadly European. I dont know where that fits. That could fit into Eastern European or into Jewish. Or into a combination. 2% is also unassigned.


    But if he were fully jewish I would need to be 6-7% ashkenazi but
    Ok

    Im only 1.4% so maybe he was russian but part jewish. There are many jews in russia.
    Yeah this maybe is the best and most logical conclusion i would say

    I dont know who else could be jewish because all others are brown as fuck and jews are not brown. And they are typical gypsies.
    The question is if its common for full Gypsies to score some Jewish like its common for example for Italians
    or if its not

    Well maybe its not
    Right?

    If its not common in general and given what you have been told about your great grandfathers origins the Russian Jew hypothesis is not unlikely
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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