Ancient Etruscans Were Immigrants From Anatolia, Or What Is Now Turkey

[Balthier]

Do you any links to this research?

Seriously dude, if you google the whole thing the research comes out. https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0616191637.htm

[hotrod]

May want to take a look at a PCA plot if you think Modern Anatolians have genetic affiliation with Ancient Anatolians. Sardinians being the closest modern population proxy to Ancient Anatolians.

[Batman]

To assume the ancient Etruscans were a homogenous people that migrated from Anatolia is futile. I won’t deny possible migrations between the two regions, but the Etruscans were mostly a native Italic group. Similarly to the Sabines that inhabited the central Apennine area.

According to the Aeneid by Virgil, the ancestors of the Romans were Trojan refugees. Aeneas would sailed with the surviving Trojans around the Mediterranean eventually settled in central Italy and founded the town Lavinium in Latium. Aeneas’s descendent Romulus eventually finds the city of Rome.

[Adamastor]

So much disinformation for one thread... and in all sides. Actually Etruscan samples were leaked and they were genetically like Basques, nothing Anatolian about them.

Actually most of this area between Iberia and Northwest Italy was Basque-like at some point, Tuscany was probably in between Sardinian and Basque.

[Regnera]

When Chinese were living in a cave - without any sign of civilization- .. in caucasian area they were building roads, wall-cities, palace, writting and so on...

Really?Chinese civilization start at 5000 years ago.

[MinervaItalica]

To assume the ancient Etruscans were a homogenous people that migrated from Anatolia is futile. I won’t deny possible migrations between the two regions, but the Etruscans were mostly a native Italic group. Similarly to the Sabines that inhabited the central Apennine area.

They developed in Italy this the only important part.

According to the Aeneid by Virgil, the ancestors of the Romans were Trojan refugees. Aeneas would sailed with the surviving Trojans around the Mediterranean eventually settled in central Italy and founded the town Lavinium in Latium. Aeneas’s descendent Romulus eventually finds the city of Rome.

Just myths. Romans were fascinated by Greek myths so they wanted to be part of this world. On the other side Greek authors wanted to be part of such a great empire like Rome and so written everything possible to claim that Rome and its culturehas Greek traces. Rome started as a Latin settlement.

[renaissance12]

Really?Chinese civilization start at 5000 years ago.

Don't believe in "state propaganda" .. civilization needs written Language.... -. culture no.. You should say chinese culture start at 5000 years ago..


Chinese written Language 1.200 B.C.. ( Before Christ )..


Sumerian civilization... 5.300 years old
Egyptian civilization.....4.800 years old (Proto-hieroglyphic symbol not considered )
Minoan civilization.......4.500 years old
Phoenician civilization..3.500 years old
Greek Civilization........3.200 years old
Chinese Civilization......3.200 years old
"Italian" civilization......3.000 years old
India civilization .........2.400 years old


Sigh.. we are the second youngest among the ancients....

[GiCa]

It's still a big question mark

Mostly because if by studying ancient bones from Tuscany, they may take too people from different tribes or admixed, as the etruscans went to inhabitate unfortunately the areas of the Villanova people who were indieuropean (Villanova were probably the ancestors of Umbria tribes maybe)

But studying the artifacts of etruscans they have linked them tho the people of Anatolia where all so ancient legends of Roman's stream too like the legend of Troy

For the language, is still thought as non Indo-European, but there is still no clarity wich is its link (luwian is an hypothesis stil uncertain), what is more certain are the relative langusges of etruscan like the Raethian of the Alps and the language of the island of Lemnos wich is in front of Anatolia, as the people who lived in those places were descendents of the etruscans

[Calpurnius]

So much disinformation for one thread... and in all sides. Actually Etruscan samples were leaked and they were genetically like Basques, nothing Anatolian about them.

Actually most of this area between Iberia and Northwest Italy was Basque-like at some point, Tuscany was probably in between Sardinian and Basque.

In that leaked PCA if one removes the outlier closer to central Europe, it seems like there is a small cline from the one closer to Basques to the one closer to north Italians/Tuscans. It may be, and I'm more inclined towards this, that this cline is simply due to lesser amounts of WHG due to Italian farmers fundamentally not absorbing as much like Iberian ones. But I think it's possible too that the ones shifted more towards Tuscans are those who require a third "southern" source from Anatolia/Levant. In terms of PCA they could produce such result I guess. But fundamentally I too am inclined towards essentially an analogous repetition of what happened in Iberia e.g steppe rich central Euro, Beaker related population mixing with local EEF, in the case of Italy Remedello-like but who knows what sort of farmers were living more south, perhaps there may have still been farmers with little to no WHG like those from the Balkans or LBK.

[Joachim]

Etruscan elite was surely from Anatolia. Earliest sites of Villanova culture have mycenean-agean like pottery.
Also,etruscan language is so close to anatolian languages,it seems like it developed in all its history surrounded by anatolian languages.
Alwin kloekhorst paper is a good source for this info.

What the new etruscan genetic study sampled were more likely etruscanized italics, not the etruscan elite,next time they should check the elite graves from earlier times
It was similar to arabization of north Africa,where a few arab migrants changed the langauge of natives.


Etruscan elite, language,culture, religion was from anatolia but modern day turks barely have much to do with ancient anatolians.

Modern day turks are a mix of ancient anatolians,Kavkazis,irano-kurds,central asian.
Turks in the west have slavic and thracian and celtic Ancestry making them look whiter.
Tutks don't have no component in the majority to identify as one.
They are like only 30-50% ancient anatolian, if turks think they are ancient anatolians it would be similar to mulattos thinking they were British generals of ww2.


Also,turks are only 15-25% turkic on average,only Turks from mugla and Canakkale have more than 27% turkic Ancestry