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    Default Sorbian challenge on Global25

    Can you get any better fits for the Sorb than I got, using online Runner and ONLY ancient* samples?:

    It seems that Hungary LBA (this is the sample called BR2, Kyjatice culture) is essential in all models:

    http://185.144.156.77:3000/



    *Medieval samples can be used too, but not modern.

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    Using this account you can run models with up to 12 populations: http://185.144.156.77:3000/?passcode=level2p0938
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    Try with Hun_MA. I cant be bothered right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Try Hun_MA. I cant be bothered right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Nice. What is even more interesting is when you open the map. Where does it plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Nice. What is even more interesting is when you open the map. Where does it plot.

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    ^^^ It looks like a Pannonian Urheimat for Slavs might be confirrmed?:

    http://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/elemen...Miesiarkin.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    ^^^ It looks like a Pannonian Urheimat for Slavs might be confirrmed?:

    http://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/elemen...Miesiarkin.pdf

    There you go. Slovaks are the Original Slavs. I was even told this by my father when I was a child. Fathers never lie. Pannonia, not Pripyat, was the marsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    There you go. Slovaks are the Original Slavs. I was even told this by my father when I was a child. Fathers never lie. Pannonia, not Pripyat, was the marsh.
    ^^^
    Poles have an excess of Baltic admixture compared to Sorbs (while Slovaks do not have it) according to SharpFork's model here:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...r-East-Germans

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpFork View Post
    If you switch and try to model Poles using this Sorb sample:

    "sample": "Polish:Average",
    "fit": 0.9455,
    "Sorb_Niederlausitz": 44.17,
    "Lithuanian": 30.83,
    "Dutch": 18.33,
    "Swedish": 6.67,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    ^^^
    Poles have an excess of Baltic admixture compared to Sorbs (while Slovaks do not have it) according to SharpFork's model here:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...r-East-Germans
    Interesting but that is average. Why not try your own with Estonian. I get Estonian in G25 and gedmatch , either after or before belarusian with Lithuanian lower on the list.

    Distance: 0.1823% / 0.00182284
    Aggregated
    13.6 Belarusian
    12.0 Estonian
    11.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    10.8 Polish
    7.6 Moldavian
    6.6 Baltic_EST_BA
    5.8 Lithuanian
    5.4 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
    5.4 UKR_Cimmerian
    3.6 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res
    3.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

    Distance: 0.1826% / 0.00182606
    12.0 Estonian:Est391
    9.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1101
    9.6 Polish: Polish9
    8.6 Belarusian:Belarusian3
    7.0 Moldavian:MOL-058
    5.8 UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
    5.6 Baltic_EST_BA:X11_1
    5.6 Belarusian:Belarusian4
    5.4 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res:MA2208
    5.2 Lithuanian:LithuanianE2
    3.6 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res:kum4
    3.6 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm127

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    Is not good to use Estonian too mixed, I will explain later

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