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    Default Can a orthodox or catholic be a born again Christian?

    I think they can if they have a personal relationship with christ and are born out of water and spirit. I have friends who are in free church and they told me a Catholic can be a christian if he has a personal relationship with christ. But not all catholics are christians. And we talked about the Pope and my friend said he is not sure if he is a christian I mean the Pope but that a Catholic can be christian.
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    Yes, being a born again Christian means you have been saved and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior . A Catholic can be born again, however, the Catholic church does have many false doctrines which can make it harder for people to find truth.

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    Yes they can. Being born again is a spiritual rebirth that happens inside of you, you become a child of God and the Holy Spirit begins to live inside of you. That can happen to any person who surrenders themselves to Jesus Christ, regardless of what church they are a member of. Your name gets literally written in the Book of Life in heaven.

    However...once a born again child of God, it would be difficult for you to remain a practising Catholic -- for example, I cannot image any true Christian praying a "Hail Mary" without feeling guilty and convicted by the Holy Spirit. When you become a born again Christian, everything changes in your life. You are a new person. And you may want to look for a different kind of spiritual fellowship.
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    A Catholic who has been born again and has eternal life is in need of gospel conversion, because Catholicism is an unbiblical, works-based, sacramental religious system. Same goes for Eastern Orthodoxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    Yes, being a born again Christian means you have been saved and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior . A Catholic can be born again, however, the Catholic church does have many false doctrines which can make it harder for people to find truth.
    Even I, an atheist, can see that Catholics don't follow the bible too closely and have strayed too much. Whereas Protestants are more truer to the source and don't make up stuff as they go.

    That's just my objective opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    Even I, an atheist, can see that Catholics don't follow the bible too closely and have strayed too much. Whereas Protestants are more truer to the source and don't make up stuff as they go.

    That's just my objective opinion.
    Yes , but we must separate the faith from the individual. I believe Catholicism has some problems, but it's not a false Gospel such as Mormonism or Jehova's Witness. Someone could be Catholic and a true Christ follower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    Yes , but we must separate the faith from the individual. I believe Catholicism has some problems, but it's not a false Gospel such as Mormonism or Jehova's Witness. Someone could be Catholic and a true Christ follower.
    It’s a false gospel. In Catholicism, “grace” must be maintained by works and sacraments.

    However, consider Romans 11:6

    And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

    Read this:

    http://www.letgodbetrue.com/pdf/is-c...-christian.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    It’s a false gospel. In Catholicism, “grace” must be maintained by works and sacraments.

    However, consider Romans 11:6

    And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

    Read this:

    http://www.letgodbetrue.com/pdf/is-c...-christian.pdf
    Yes, but if someone is Catholic and has accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they are not under that. They probably are just "Catholic" out of tradition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    Yes, but if someone is Catholic and has accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they are not under that. They probably are just "Catholic" out of tradition.
    Jesus will save every single one the Father has given Him (John 6:39, 10:27-29). It is not man who chooses God (Romans 3:10-12), but God Who chooses man (John 1:12-13; Romans 9:15-16; Ephesians 1:3-6, 11; 1 John 4:19).

    So if a Catholic is truly born again, then he’s born again, even if he really needs to be converted from his erroneous ways. Because he’s following a false gospel, just like the Galatians, who were being led astray by Judaizers. Paul was very insistent:

    Galatians 1:8-9:

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Jesus will save every single one the Father has given Him (John 6:39, 10:27-29). It is not man who chooses God (Romans 3:10-12), but God Who chooses man (John 1:12-13; Romans 9:15-16; Ephesians 1:3-6, 11; 1 John 4:19).

    So if a Catholic is truly born again, then he’s born again, even if he really needs to be converted from his erroneous ways. Because he’s following a false gospel, just like the Galatians, who were being led astray by Judaizers. Paul was very insistent:

    Galatians 1:8-9:

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    Catholics say Jesus is Lord and the son of God. The teachings they did in the past were indulgences. Catholics do not follow that today. Catholics are anti homosexual and very pro life. The main issue with the Catholic church is their emphasis on Mother Mary and praying to Saints. ButGod is very merciful and when people are HIS, then He does not dismiss them . You are either saved or aren't. You can follow the Gospel and still not be saved. It is a personal relationship. In fact, I would go as far as to say some Mormons may be saved. But in reality, that's probably fewer than Catholics.

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