Why people from Northeast Italy get Middle Eastern/West Asian on MyHeritage?

[Adamastor]

First of all, this is not a trolling thread. I have ancestry from Friuli/Veneto/Tyrol myself.


I was roaming through some MyHeritage results of people with origins in Veneto and Friuli and they sometimes got West Asian and Middle Eastern in significant amounts (5-10%). Is this some kind of CHG-related type of ancestry being (purposefully) read as ''Middle Eastern/West Asian''?

It seems it's a deliberate attempt of MyHeritage of giving ''diverse'' genetic origins to everyone because when these same people upload the raw DNA to GEDmatch all of this West Asian related type of DNA disappears and the results just become normal Northern Italian. I also see MyHeritage reading Northern Italian DNA as Iberian or even Baltic many times. Many people with significant ancestry from Northern Italy get very few amounts of Italian there.

[Decius]

It’s just miscalculated. Not real middle eastern just ancient.

[PaleoEuropean]

First of all, this is not a trolling thread. I have ancestry from Friuli/Veneto/Tyrol myself.


I was roaming through some MyHeritage results of people with origins in Veneto and Friuli and they sometimes got West Asian and Middle Eastern in significant amounts (5-10%). Is this some kind of CHG-related type of ancestry being (purposefully) read as ''Middle Eastern/West Asian''?

It seems it's a deliberate attempt of MyHeritage of giving ''diverse'' genetic origins to everyone because when these same people upload the raw DNA to GEDmatch all of this West Asian related type of DNA disappears and the results just become normal Northern Italian. I also see MyHeritage reading Northern Italian DNA as Iberian or even Baltic many times. Many people with significant ancestry from Northern Italy get very few amounts of Italian there.

Northern Italy has shifted through many hands including the Spanish, also many Conversos and Sephardi fled to Italy and assimilated.

[catgeorge]

North Italy is 50% R1b 30% neolithic and 20% I

[Pine]

First of all, this is not a trolling thread. I have ancestry from Friuli/Veneto/Tyrol myself.


I was roaming through some MyHeritage results of people with origins in Veneto and Friuli and they sometimes got West Asian and Middle Eastern in significant amounts (5-10%). Is this some kind of CHG-related type of ancestry being (purposefully) read as ''Middle Eastern/West Asian''?

It seems it's a deliberate attempt of MyHeritage of giving ''diverse'' genetic origins to everyone because when these same people upload the raw DNA to GEDmatch all of this West Asian related type of DNA disappears and the results just become normal Northern Italian. I also see MyHeritage reading Northern Italian DNA as Iberian or even Baltic many times. Many people with significant ancestry from Northern Italy get very few amounts of Italian there.

And when MyHeritage assigned me some West Asian and Middle Eastern instead of a Jewish group, it was to simultaneously weaken my connection with the Jewish people and to make me identify with the Palestinian cause.

[Adamastor]

Northern Italy has shifted through many hands including the Spanish, also many Conversos and Sephardi fled to Italy and assimilated.

It does not show on GEDmatch though (all of these percentages generally got reduced). That's why I asked the question.

I know you're just trolling (as usual in any threads about Italians), but Northern Italian genetic profile doesn't have any significant Jewish or Middle Eastern influence.

[PaleoEuropean]

It does not show on GEDmatch though (all of these percentages generally got reduced). That's why I asked the question.

I know you're just trolling (as usual in any threads about Italians), but Northern Italian genetic profile doesn't have any significant Jewish or Middle Eastern influence.

I only troll trolls, it's historical fact that many Jews and some converted Arabs fled to Northern Italy. Sephardi usually shows up as Spanish or Middle Eastern. You just stated in the OP that the regions you mentioned have a lot of middle eastern admixture. If you don't like the answers don't ask the question, you can do your own research and easily confirm what I am saying

[Adamastor]

I only troll trolls, it's historical fact that many Jews and some converted Arabs fled to Northern Italy. Sephardi usually shows up as Spanish or Middle Eastern. You just stated in the OP that the regions you mentioned have a lot of middle eastern admixture. If you don't like the answers don't ask the question, you can do your own research and easily confirm what I am saying

They don't have recent ''Middle Eastern admixture'' because the same admixture disappears in other calculators. That's why I was asking the question to begin with, how MyHeritage manage to give Middle Eastern for these regions and not to neighbouring regions with much more MENA, that was the question.

Northern Italians have very small affinity with the Middle East overall and are even closer to Iberians and S. French than to Balkanites, let alone Caucasus and Levant. Again, stop trolling or talking about things you don't know.

[PaleoEuropean]

They don't have recent ''Middle Eastern admixture'' because the same admixture disappears in other calculators. That's why was asking the question to begin with, how MyHeritage manage to give Middle Eastern for these regions and not to neighbouring regions with much more MENA, that was the question.

Northern Italians have very small affinity with the Middle East overall and are even closer to Iberians and S. French than to Balkanites, let alone Caucasus and Levant. Again, stop trolling or talking about things you don't know.

How do you know though that the neighboring regions are more of anything? Thats what admixture tests are supposed to tell us (admittingly they don't do a perfect or even great job). Both places you mentioned were bastions for Jews: https://www.j-italy.org/friuli-veneziagiulia/

https://www.j-italy.org/veneto/

[Benyzero]

Myheritage sucks, It will def take few more years for it to be more accurate. Most people buying it in hungary because it is the most (only) promoted dna company you can see in the commercials, and is cheaper , reasonably. Atleast their database will improve with time