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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    Cro-magnons had some diversity in looks and the tallest ones( mostly from the East) were the most gracile ones with more long faces and high cural indexes, nordid-aethiopid looking.
    Where are their skulls? Eastern hunter gatherers looked like this


    They were taller and weighed more than WHG. Average height 5 10. WHG average height was like 5 foot 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    No. The ones from the Iron Gates were classified as Brunn




    http://discovermagazine.com/2018/nov...nd-the-forager
    I think the Brunn phenotype is associated with high ANE, with makes sense if you look at the concentrations of this phenotype( Ireland, Norway). So i think that the more Brunn Eastern CMs were the ones with higher ANE. Brunns are not so robust, borrebies are more, as far as i know and borrebies tend to be shorter than brunns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    If that were true they wouldn't be some of the most common phenotypes for how little their populations were

    Women don't want frail waifish boys, they wan't men that can open beer bottles with their faces.
    What would you classify him pre steroids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    I think the Brunn phenotype is associated with high ANE, with makes sense if you look at the concentrations of this phenotype. So i think that the more Brunn Eastern CMs were the ones with higher ANE. Brunns are not so robust.
    No. Brunn skull was found in present day Brno, Czech Republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    What would you classify him pre steroids
    Hafthor is Trřnder. The steroids just made him look more overgrown facially than he really is IMO. I don't think it's possible to accurately classify strongmen without seeing pictures of how they looked before their transformations, for this exact reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    Hafthor is Trřnder. The steroids just made him look more overgrown facially than he really is IMO. I don't think it's possible to accurately classify strongmen without seeing pictures of how they looked before their transformations, for this exact reason.
    Okay what would you say about people who look pretty robust when they are doing well and have enough food to eat and then turn into skeletons? I’ve seen this personally happen in my country.

    all this classifying from pictures is larping. It’s not super accurate. People need to buy calipers and give their cranial and jaw measurements

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    If that were true they wouldn't be some of the most common phenotypes for how little their populations were

    Women don't want frail waifish boys, they wan't men that can open beer bottles with their faces.
    Yeah but Brünn and Borreby men aren’t as good looking as other Cro-Magnid men. They’re common types because attractiveness in men hasn’t had much evolutionary importance until relatively recently. But that will change; they’ll become rarer and rarer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    Okay what would you say about people who look pretty robust when they are doing well and have enough food to eat and then turn into skeletons? I’ve seen this personally happen in my country.
    I've never seen this happen and I'm also not an expert on classifications, so I think it'd be outside of my expertise to comment on it. I don't believe that one's phenotype can change over time, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    all this classifying from pictures is larping. It’s not super accurate. People need to buy calipers and give their cranial and jaw measurements
    Don't know if I'd call it larping, but I agree that the only accurate way people can determine their phenotype is through taking their basic anthropological measurements, as the human eye test will never be entirely reliable and things like pigmentation or stated ethnicity too often heavily skew people's answers. Still, sites like this exist to serve those who don't want to or otherwise can't acquire the necessary equipment and I only see taxonomy as a bit of fun rather than some kind of infallible physical science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    I've never seen this happen and I'm also not an expert on classifications, so I think it'd be outside of my expertise to comment on it. I don't believe that one's phenotype can change over time, though.


    Don't know if I'd call it larping, but I agree that the only accurate way people can determine their phenotype is through taking their basic anthropological measurements, as the human eye test will never be entirely reliable and things like pigmentation or stated ethnicity too often heavily skew people's answers. Still, sites like this exist to serve those who don't want to or otherwise can't acquire the necessary equipment and I only see taxonomy as a bit of fun rather than some kind of infallible physical science.


    That’s somewhat of a extreme example. But you get the point.

    A phenotype absolutely can’t change. How well a person represents his phenotype can change based on diet, health, and height. Height has a huge effect on how you look in pictures.

    In pictures due to all kinds of different angles and bodyfat levels a persons “robustness” can vary quite a lot. That’s why pictures are bs. Calipers don’t cost that much haha.

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