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    They're significantly closer to Spaniards on average. The only exception are the Northwest and Northeast fringes of Italy.

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    One thing is sure .. the French and their culture owe everything to Italy

    French cuisine ? Ask Caterina de Medici.. Italy
    French perfume ? Ask.. Renato Bianco, who introduced perfume-making to Paris..
    Franche "fashion" ? Venetians introduced " baroque" fashion to Paris in XVI - XVII century...
    French classic music ? Ask....Jean-Baptiste Lully born Giovanni Battista Lulli...Italy
    French fairy tales ? Ask Giambattista Basile Italy ..Snow White.. Cinderella .. Puss in Boots.. Sleeping Beauty..ect ect..
    French Napoleon ?.... ah ah.. he was an Italian fucking head...


    Caterina De Medici introduced also the "ballet" in France..
    Don't forget "Baroque - Rococň" style.. Poor french... they have been living in our shadow since oldest time

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    One thing is sure .. the French and their culture owe everything to Italy

    French cuisine ? Ask Caterina de Medici.. Italy
    French perfume ? Ask.. Renato Bianco, who introduced perfume-making to Paris..
    Franche "fashion" ? Venetians introduced " baroque" fashion to Paris in XVI - XVII century...
    French classic music ? Ask....Jean-Baptiste Lully born Giovanni Battista Lulli...Italy
    French fairy tales ? Ask Giambattista Basile Italy ..Snow White.. Cinderella .. Puss in Boots.. Sleeping Beauty..ect ect..
    French Napoleon ?.... ah ah.. he was an Italian fucking head...


    Caterina De Medici introduced also the "ballet" in France..
    Don't forget "Baroque - Rococň" style.. Poor french... they have been living in our shadow since oldest time
    we have invented the first computers the firsts computer machine languages,we send space rockets with civils ,meteos and military satellites in space and we are at the first rank,we have several commands from many countries we are front the USA as soft power, while the ritals are watching boobs,football and formula 1 ,we have discovered the AIDS syndrom,we have discovered the first hominids while the ritals are watching and wanking on Milan AC and formula 1 with more boobs and where are the ritals while this time on collapsing towns? while ritals are letting people like bettino craxi and silvio berlusconi ruining there economy come on it's a joke this dude!


    How powerful is France?

    Very, in relative terms to the rest of the world.


    France just became #1 in the ranking of nations by soft power in the world, eclipsing Trump’s US and Brexit Britain. Soft power* refers to a nation’s cultural prestige, social impact and global influence. French fashion, design, cuisine, art, architecture and produce is valued and beloved around the world (somewhat subjective). France is a major member of many political and supra-national organisations like the UN (Permanent Security Council), EU, la Francophonie, and NATO, securing the support of many other powers around the world in the event of a crisis.

    But I’m assuming the question refers to hard power; i.e. military might and capability. In which case the answer is still very, but not nearly as much as Russia, China, and of course, the US of A.
    To start with, the Armée de Terre (Ground Forces) includes about 130,000 active servicemen; this number has been projected to be capable of jumping up to potentially an upper bound of 300,000~ in the event of reserves being called up and mobilisation to some degree; although this is not very likely to occur in the near future. Deployment is another hurdle; in 2015 a statistic came up where it was stated that France at it’s current military status could realistically deploy only a few tens of thousands of her troops to theatres of war not immediately adjacent to France. Despite the no-longer present threat of Germany on her Eastern border, France keeps approximately 2,000 active personnel on that border. French military vehicles like the Leclerc are some of the best.

    The Marine Nationale (Navy) is home to an aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle and also has naval bases not only in Metropolitan France, but in France’s overseas possessions that span 12 time zones around the world, remnants of an once-sprawling colonial empire. The French navy has about 36,000 active personnel as of 2014, and 180 ships, of which an estimated 20% are capital vessels. Exact numbers are unknown due to confidentiality of information. French naval vessels have been active off the coast of Lebanon.
    France’s Armée de l’Air (Air Army/Force) currently operates upward of 500 modern aircraft; with bases equipped with state-of-the-art radar and missile technology developed mutually with allies during and after the Cold War. Don’t forget France is also a nation with nuclear capability; a current stockpile of some 300 nuclear warheads is known to be in French hands. Another strongpoint of France is her self-sufficiency; France produces more food than it consumes, allowing for a surplus of foodstuffs that would come in handy in the event of a prolonged war near or in Metropolitan France.
    Now take into account France’s recent military exploits; she participated in operations in Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq; some of which are still ongoing; she intervenes against militants in the West African states of la Francophonie such as in Mali in 2011, and in the Côte d’Ivoire that same year. Military interventions in Francophone West Africa against violent groups have also occurred in Burkina Faso Niger and Chad, to my knowledge in recent years. Also noteworthy is her military history; France has traditionally dominated Europe diplomatically or militarily, on and off, for centuries; she looks set to continue a stable position for some time.
    In short, France is not the US, but France is far from the trope of ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys’ either.

    FRANCE TOP 10 RANK group,10th in 2019, 9th in 2018 ITALY : ........18th?

    we owned the space ship flying technology through the works of jean-pierre petit and the magneto-hydro dynamics,and then since 1975


    we nuked you where we want,when we want, just need pushing one button and pouff! no more ritals! in just a matter of sparks,no place to hide

    now get back to your hole coakroach! where is your place ! that's it !good, in the swamped filthy darkness where you from and if your continue deeply dishonnest intellectual european bashing i ask to loki or any moderators to lock down your ip and the ip of your provider in the black list hosts ad vitam eternam. capiche!



    Last edited by coolfrenchguy; 09-26-2019 at 01:09 AM.
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    Italians by far and large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolfrenchguy View Post
    we have invented the first computers the firsts computer machine languages,we send space rockets with civils ,meteos and military satellites in space and we are at the first rank,we have several commands from many countries we are front the USA as soft power, while the ritals are watching boobs,football and formula 1 ,we have discovered the AIDS syndrom,we have discovered the first hominids while the ritals are watching and wanking on Milan AC and formula 1 with more boobs and where are the ritals while this time on collapsing towns? while ritals are letting people like bettino craxi and silvio berlusconi ruining there economy come on it's a joke this dude!


    How powerful is France?

    Very, in relative terms to the rest of the world.


    France just became #1 in the ranking of nations by soft power in the world, eclipsing Trump’s US and Brexit Britain. Soft power* refers to a nation’s cultural prestige, social impact and global influence. French fashion, design, cuisine, art, architecture and produce is valued and beloved around the world (somewhat subjective). France is a major member of many political and supra-national organisations like the UN (Permanent Security Council), EU, la Francophonie, and NATO, securing the support of many other powers around the world in the event of a crisis.

    But I’m assuming the question refers to hard power; i.e. military might and capability. In which case the answer is still very, but not nearly as much as Russia, China, and of course, the US of A.
    To start with, the Armée de Terre (Ground Forces) includes about 130,000 active servicemen; this number has been projected to be capable of jumping up to potentially an upper bound of 300,000~ in the event of reserves being called up and mobilisation to some degree; although this is not very likely to occur in the near future. Deployment is another hurdle; in 2015 a statistic came up where it was stated that France at it’s current military status could realistically deploy only a few tens of thousands of her troops to theatres of war not immediately adjacent to France. Despite the no-longer present threat of Germany on her Eastern border, France keeps approximately 2,000 active personnel on that border. French military vehicles like the Leclerc are some of the best.

    The Marine Nationale (Navy) is home to an aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle and also has naval bases not only in Metropolitan France, but in France’s overseas possessions that span 12 time zones around the world, remnants of an once-sprawling colonial empire. The French navy has about 36,000 active personnel as of 2014, and 180 ships, of which an estimated 20% are capital vessels. Exact numbers are unknown due to confidentiality of information. French naval vessels have been active off the coast of Lebanon.
    France’s Armée de l’Air (Air Army/Force) currently operates upward of 500 modern aircraft; with bases equipped with state-of-the-art radar and missile technology developed mutually with allies during and after the Cold War. Don’t forget France is also a nation with nuclear capability; a current stockpile of some 300 nuclear warheads is known to be in French hands. Another strongpoint of France is her self-sufficiency; France produces more food than it consumes, allowing for a surplus of foodstuffs that would come in handy in the event of a prolonged war near or in Metropolitan France.
    Now take into account France’s recent military exploits; she participated in operations in Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq; some of which are still ongoing; she intervenes against militants in the West African states of la Francophonie such as in Mali in 2011, and in the Côte d’Ivoire that same year. Military interventions in Francophone West Africa against violent groups have also occurred in Burkina Faso Niger and Chad, to my knowledge in recent years. Also noteworthy is her military history; France has traditionally dominated Europe diplomatically or militarily, on and off, for centuries; she looks set to continue a stable position for some time.
    In short, France is not the US, but France is far from the trope of ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys’ either.

    FRANCE TOP 10 RANK group,10th in 2019, 9th in 2018 ITALY : ........18th?

    we owned the space ship flying technology through the works of jean-pierre petit and the magneto-hydro dynamics,and then since 1975


    we nuked you where we want,when we want, just need pushing one button and pouff! no more ritals! in just a matter of sparks,no place to hide

    now get back to your hole coakroach! where is your place ! that's it !good, in the swamped filthy darkness where you from and if your continue deeply dishonnest intellectual european bashing i ask to loki or any moderators to lock down your ip and the ip of your provider in the black list hosts ad vitam eternam. capiche!



    Your Desperate Reaction Explains One Thing: France And The French Owe Everything To Italy..........Don't Worry And Be Happy With British's Inferiority Complex Toward France.......
    Last edited by renaissance12; 09-26-2019 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    Italians by far and large.
    LOL

    No way. Apart from Friulians, Tyroleans and Aostans pretty much all French are closer even to Portuguese than to any Italians genetically. They are obviously closer to Basques and Catalans than to Italians as a whole.

    If you include Southern Italians then the difference is even bigger. One could even argue that French are closer to Canarians than to Sicilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    LOL

    No way. Apart from Friulians, Tyroleans and Aostans pretty much all French are closer even to Portuguese than to any Italians genetically. They are obviously closer to Basques and Catalans than to Italians as a whole.

    If you include Southern Italians then the difference is even bigger. One could even argue that French are closer to Canarians than to Sicilians.
    No, you are wrong. North Italians cluster with Iberians.

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    Genetics: considering both regions entirely, they're closer to peoples from the Iberian Peninsula than to Italians as a whole, but in this case you have to exclude the Basque because they're something else.

    Phenotype: I don't know.

    Culture: Not sure but probably Italians

    Linguistics: Gallo-Romance (Northern Italy languages + Catalan), but if you were to consider only official languages at national level, then it would be (standard) Italian.

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