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Thread: Archaeological Site of Aigai (modern name Vergina)

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    Default Archaeological Site of Aigai (modern name Vergina)

    https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/780/

    "The city of Aigai, the ancient first capital of the Kingdom of Macedonia, was discovered in the 19th century near Vergina, in northern Greece. The most important remains are the monumental palace, lavishly decorated with mosaics and painted stuccoes, and the burial ground with more than 300 tumuli, some of which date from the 11th century B.C. One of the royal tombs in the Great Tumulus is identified as that of Philip II, who conquered all the Greek cities, paving the way for his son Alexander and the expansion of the Hellenistic world."

    So where is the DNA results after all this time? Apparently the skeleton perfectly preserved of whom is presumed to be Phillip II or his son(Alexanders half brother -Arrhidaeus). Aside from this great find, there are the 300 other Tumuli that can, or probably some of which already were excavated.

    Why hasn't any attempts been made at extracting Y-DNA from this potential dynasty which most likely hints to Alexanders potential Y-DNA. Unless you believe actual Gods fathered him instead of Phillip lol.

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    Thanks the Gods this wasn't discovered till 19th century, so the christians didn't destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pausanias View Post
    Thanks the Gods this wasn't discovered till 19th century, so the christians didn't destroy it.
    I'm sure there is an explanation for why they were never tested, like money or resources. However, with the growing knowledge genetics is providing I think they should revisit this find, and excavate further. Considering this is the hot zone of the Argead Dynasty its possible it can provide us a look not only into Ancient Macedonians but Proto-Macedonians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDark View Post
    I'm sure there is an explanation for why they were never tested, like money or resources. However, with the growing knowledge genetics is providing I think they should revisit this find, and excavate further. Considering this is the hot zone of the Argead Dynasty its possible it can provide us a look not only into Ancient Macedonians but Proto-Macedonians.
    Greek governments during the last two decades are not funding projects which may allude to the biological continuation of the Greek people. This is somehow considered to be corrosive to the psyche of the Greek people and at the very least usually backfires politically because it instills nationalism. Frankly, Greek governments seem to want to avoid this issue altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    Greek governments during the last two decades are not funding projects which may allude to the biological continuation of the Greek people. This is somehow considered to be corrosive to the psyche of the Greek people and at the very least usually backfires politically because it instills nationalism. Frankly, Greek governments seem to want to avoid this issue altogether.
    It’s sad honestly. Just think of what we could learn. It reminds me of the Tolense findings which is even worse because they find 2000 male remains 5-8 years ago and never tested the Ydna. Only autosomal. It’s a shame that governments get involved in these sorts of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDark View Post
    It’s sad honestly. Just think of what we could learn. It reminds me of the Tolense findings which is even worse because they find 2000 male remains 5-8 years ago and never tested the Ydna. Only autosomal. It’s a shame that governments get involved in these sorts of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDark View Post
    It’s sad honestly. Just think of what we could learn. It reminds me of the Tolense findings which is even worse because they find 2000 male remains 5-8 years ago and never tested the Ydna. Only autosomal. It’s a shame that governments get involved in these sorts of things.
    Its hard to release these if not 100% confident of being correct maybe in few years as technology improves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDark View Post
    It’s sad honestly. Just think of what we could learn. It reminds me of the Tolense findings which is even worse because they find 2000 male remains 5-8 years ago and never tested the Ydna. Only autosomal. It’s a shame that governments get involved in these sorts of things.
    I suspect they are a little fearful of the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    I suspect they are a little fearful of the results.
    yeah probably R1b like Ramses

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDark View Post
    It’s sad honestly. Just think of what we could learn. It reminds me of the Tolense findings which is even worse because they find 2000 male remains 5-8 years ago and never tested the Ydna. Only autosomal. It’s a shame that governments get involved in these sorts of things.
    It is still possible to do this kind of test, but only if a university or a research group funds its own project. If there is a conservative government in Greece they are more likely to cooperate. Leftist governments will have nothing of this.

    Personally, I am not so interested in the Y-DNA. Rather, I would be curious to see if this Northern Doric Greek tribe is autosomically more North European shifted than the South Greek Bronze Age Mycenaean counterparts.

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