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Thread: GEDmatch kits of Moorish bodies found in Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Sudaca View Post
    The first one isn't pure moorish, it's impossible. The North Atlantic and West Med are too high. Just look at the single population list, no 0 MENA. Incredible
    Moor ≠ North African

    Moor was just the word used for Muslims in general. Most Moors in Spain were of mainly Spanish ancestry as can be seen by the results in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Moor ≠ North African

    Moor was just the word used for Muslims in general. Most Moors in Spain were of mainly Spanish ancestry as can be seen by the results in this thread.
    80% of Al-Andalus population were medievals christians

    The collapse of Al-Andalus came with the fall of the Caliphate and the arrival of the muslims fanatics ( Almoravids & Almohads ).

    Christians & Jews had to pay the muslim tax, but muslims fanatics didn't want taxes, only they wanted the conquer and the convertion to the whole population to Islam.

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    If people realized that the majority of the muslims in Al Andalus were Spanish (many of them visigoths) converted to islam for political-economical reasons, people would stop to say nonsenses about moorish Spain. This is how muslims looked like in Al-Andalus:




    And this also goes to today´s muslims from northafrica or other places, that they keep believing that "they" ruled most of Spain.... If they knew that the moors that ruled most of Spain were white and basically full Europeans, they would stop about thinking that they were great in Al-Andalus. A minority were in fact north-africans...but pure caucasoid types (since islam started to enslave blacks in the XII-XIII centuries and that is why today´s northafricans are mulattoes, and the ones that entered in Spain remained almost fully caucasoid.

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    These examples just show they were mostly converted Iberians (aka traitors), as is very well known

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    They look North African and Arabian admixed based on the results. It would be interesting to see the results of the Moors who conquered the area, I doubt they would be this much Spanish. Yes since many of the Moors were Spanish converts and were Arabized. These are just locals converts who mixed with Arabians and North Africans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Kit XU2905144

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 27.41
    2 North_Atlantic 25.87
    3 East_Med 16.73
    4 Red_Sea 11.91
    5 West_Asian 7.93
    6 Sub-Saharan 3.26
    7 Baltic 2.89
    8 Amerindian 1.75
    9 Siberian 1.73
    10 South_Asian 0.31
    11 Northeast_African 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan 12.98
    2 North_Italian 13.87
    3 West_Sicilian 14.78
    4 Spanish_Extremadura 15.41
    5 Italian_Abruzzo 16.16
    6 Spanish_Andalucia 16.63
    7 Portuguese 16.89
    8 Spanish_Galicia 17.14
    9 Spanish_Murcia 17.31
    10 East_Sicilian 18.04
    11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18.22
    12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.45
    13 South_Italian 18.61
    14 Central_Greek 18.74
    15 Spanish_Valencia 18.75
    16 Greek_Thessaly 18.86
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.69
    18 Spanish_Cantabria 20.12
    19 Spanish_Aragon 20.41
    20 Sephardic_Jewish 21.59

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.1% French_Basque + 46.9% Bedouin @ 6.57
    2 51.6% French_Basque + 48.4% Syrian @ 8.07
    3 64% Spanish_Aragon + 36% Bedouin @ 8.34
    4 69.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 30.2% Bedouin @ 8.45
    5 64.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 35.5% Bedouin @ 8.48
    6 72.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 27.9% Bedouin @ 8.55
    7 67.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 32.7% Bedouin @ 8.58
    8 53.6% French_Basque + 46.4% Jordanian @ 8.6
    9 74.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 25.2% Saudi @ 8.63
    10 61.9% Southwest_French + 38.1% Bedouin @ 8.66
    11 59.2% French_Basque + 40.8% Saudi @ 8.71
    12 53.9% French_Basque + 46.1% Palestinian @ 8.78
    13 63.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 36.6% Moroccan @ 8.9
    14 71.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 28.8% Syrian @ 8.99
    15 54.2% French_Basque + 45.8% Samaritan @ 9.04
    16 60.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 39.1% Moroccan @ 9.05
    17 62.8% Spanish_Aragon + 37.2% Syrian @ 9.1
    18 77.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.8% Saudi @ 9.11
    19 63.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 36.7% Syrian @ 9.13
    20 63.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 36.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 9.18

    This sample shows Arabian admixture especially through the Bedouin and Saudi
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    1 50% Azeri_Dagestan +50% BedouinA @ 2.879975


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    Is K13?
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Is K13?
    Pff this was a long time ago, but yes K13 if I'm not wrong.

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