"White Supremacists and SJWs have more in common with each other than they realise". Discuss.

[Smeagol]

But the point is some of those supposed 'patriots' hate a significant percentage of their co-citizens (usually Blacks or Gypsies, depending on the country in question).

Because the blacks and gypsies belong to foreign ethnic groups.

[Tooting Carmen]

Because the blacks and gypsies belong to foreign ethnic groups.

Opposition to Asians and Hispanics is understandable for hardcore American patriots, insofar as they oppose mass (recent) immigration. But Blacks aren't recent immigrants like those groups predominantly are - far from it.

[Ethel]

(1) Only White people can be discriminatory and hostile to other races.

In what context? Most white people are not discriminatory and hostile towards other races, what happens is a (often unconscious) reproduction of racism that is basically a reflection of something institutional and rooted in SOME societies. In short, what is generally promoted by SJWs is the idea of privilege and institutional racism that benefits whites over other races, this is specifically the case of countries colonized by Europeans with a history of slavery, and not a global thing.

(2) White people can never be victims of racism.

They can, everyone can, given certain historical conditions that could subvert and subdue them before a dominant social group, that often will exploit this subjugated group. But, this just doesn't happen, or at least I don't know any relevant cases of institutional racism against whites, let alone anything comparable to what applies to blacks in countries like Brazil and USA.

(3) People of all non-White races would prefer to marry a White person than someone of their own race.

This only happens in places where marrying a white is something linked to social ascension, and in this case if there is social ascension through whitewashing a lineage, then said society already has rooted racism, and as I have already stressed in the above answers, this is not a global thing, but specific to nations that fit the historical parameters for such oppression to occur. White supremacists will marry other whites simply because they don't want to "mess" their lineage with something they see as inferior. Or, in the case of those who bother to disguise their racist mindset, to "preserve the uniqueness" of their biology/race.

[Tooting Carmen]

In what context? Most white people are not discriminatory and hostile towards other races, what happens is a (often unconscious) reproduction of racism that is basically a reflection of something institutional and rooted in SOME societies. In short, what is generally promoted by SJWs is the idea of privilege and institutional racism that benefits whites over other races, this is specifically the case of countries colonized by Europeans with a history of slavery, and not a global thing.



They can, everyone can, given certain historical conditions that could subvert and subdue them before a dominant social group, that often will exploit this subjugated group. But, this just doesn't happen, or at least I don't know any relevant cases of institutional racism against whites, let alone anything comparable to what applies to blacks in countries like Brazil and USA.



This only happens in places where marrying a white is something linked to social ascension, and in this case if there is social ascension through whitewashing a lineage, then said society already has rooted racism, and as I have already stressed in the above answers, this is not a global thing, but specific to nations that fit the historical parameters for such oppression to occur.

What you say has some validity. However, I disagree that Whites in the New World are always necessarily better-off than Blacks, nor that every Black person in the New World is desperate for a White partner.

[Smeagol]

Opposition to Asians and Hispanics is understandable for hardcore American patriots, insofar as they oppose mass (recent) immigration. But Blacks aren't recent immigrants like those groups predominantly are - far from it.

Gypsies are a foreign race of criminals so it's obvious why native European patriots would oppose them. As for blacks in America, I've explained this before. They were imported to be slaves. No one ever dreamed of making them equals. They were not part of mainstream society until 50 years ago and even nowadays there's a lot of self-segregation.

[Ethel]

What you say has some validity. However, I disagree that Whites in the New World are always necessarily better-off than Blacks, nor that every Black person in the New World is desperate for a White partner.

I too don't think a black person in the New World would be desperate for a white partner, this is something much more unconscious than a real strategy outlined by them, and it has diminished greatly over the years.

[Tooting Carmen]

Gypsies are a foreign race of criminals so it's obvious why native European patriots would oppose them. As for blacks in America, I've explained this before. They were imported to be slaves. No one ever dreamed of making them equals. They were not part of mainstream society until 50 years ago and even nowadays there's a lot of self-segregation.

So in your opinion, an African-American cannot be a patriotic American? (Opposed to mass immigration from Asia and Latin America etc.)

[catgeorge]

But the point is some of those supposed 'patriots' hate a significant percentage of their co-citizens (usually Blacks or Gypsies, depending on the country in question).

Understood - but surely they are in the minority. They're like looney fringes

[Smeagol]

So in your opinion, an African-American cannot be a patriotic American? (Opposed to mass immigration from Asia and Latin America etc.)

No, they can't be. That's also why I think "African-American" is a nonsense PC term. You're either an American or you're not.

[Tooting Carmen]

No, they can't be. That's also why I think "African-American" is a nonsense PC term. You're either an American or you're not.

It's no worse than the terms for various White ethnic groups - Greek-American, Italian-American, Polish-American, Irish-American etc.