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    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    I didn't think that Israel had such strict marriage laws regarding Jews and non-Jews. What are the requirements to marry an Israeli Jew legally if you are a non-Jew? Or is it just if you want to get married in Orthodox ways, and you can just get married secularly anywhere anytime between Jews and non-Jews? How do the Israelites enforce this? It seems like a law that would be difficult to maintain because of outside pressure especially.
    You can't. you have to be a halakhic jew to marry a halakhic jew in Israel.

    However they recognise marriages performed abroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    You can't. you have to be a halakhic jew to marry a halakhic jew in Israel.

    However they recognise marriages performed abroad.
    Ok, but then how do they enforce this? There are no secular marriages at all in the country that the government recognizes outside of those performed abroad by immigrants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    Ok, but then how do they enforce this? There are no secular marriages at all in the country that the government recognizes outside of those performed abroad by immigrants?
    nope, no secular marriages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    nope, no secular marriages.
    Thanks for the punctual answers, but I still would like to know how this is enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    Thanks for the punctual answers, but I still would like to know how this is enforced.
    To get married you must be a halakhic Jew.

    To prove this you must prove your mother was a halakhic Jew.

    There are many records. The easiest way to prove it is to provide your parents' ketubah, their marriage certificate. If they have an Orthodox one, it means both parents were themselves Halalkhic Jews and therefore no further proof is needed.

    If there is no ketubah, things get a little trickier, but the maternal grandparents' ketubah would normally suffice. Failing that, the records of an Orthodox synagogue.

    Failing that, we're into deep shit. But for most people the parents' ketubah is readily available and sufficient.

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