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    No. You're not. If you were 5% Finnish would you see yourself as Finnish? Would Finns see you as Finnish?

    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    No person is 100% Ashkenazi. If you're 5% you could have something like a grandma with 20% which is near the average for Ashkenazim. As Paleo said, if it's via maternal line, then as per Jewish law you are Jewish.
    wtf of course people are 100% Ashkenazi you screamer. Are you getting confused with JTest on Eurogenes or smth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    No. You're not. If you were 5% Finnish would you see yourself as Finnish? Would Finns see you as Finnish?



    wtf of course people are 100% Ashkenazi you screamer. Are you getting confused with JTest on Eurogenes or smth?
    you can be 0% ashkenazi and still jewish, if you convert to judaism. There is no thumb rule. I consider myself a little jewish too. Im only 1.4%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    No. You're not. If you were 5% Finnish would you see yourself as Finnish? Would Finns see you as Finnish?



    wtf of course people are 100% Ashkenazi you screamer. Are you getting confused with JTest on Eurogenes or smth?
    Would Jews consider him a Jew if that 5% was via his direct maternal line? I think it would be ridiculous to go back that far, but what would Orthodox Jews say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    you can be 0% ashkenazi and still jewish, if you convert to judaism. There is no thumb rule. I consider myself a little jewish too. Im only 1.4%
    But she hasn't. She's asking if being 1/16 Ashkenazi makes her Ashkenazi. It's obvious she has no cultural connections to Jewishness or Ashkenazi culture. It's a typical New World delusion - I have distant ancestry from x, am I x? Answer: no. Membership of x requires more than 'my great-great-grandpa was x once.'

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Would Jews consider him a Jew if that 5% was via his direct maternal line? I think it would be ridiculous to go back that far, but what would Orthodox Jews say?
    Some would say yes, as that's three-to-five generations back...

    ...provided the person and none of their maternal ancestors had converted to another religion, which is unlikely, considering.
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    5%? Are you joking right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    ...provided the person and none of their maternal ancestors had converted to another religion, which is unlikely, considering.
    So if a Jewish women marries a Christian and converts before their kid is born would the kid be considered a Jew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    But she hasn't. She's asking if being 1/16 Ashkenazi makes her Ashkenazi. It's obvious she has no cultural connections to Jewishness or Ashkenazi culture. It's a typical New World delusion - I have distant ancestry from x, am I x? Answer: no. Membership of x requires more than 'my great-great-grandpa was x once.'



    Some would say yes, as that's three-to-five generations back...

    ...provided the person and none of their maternal ancestors had converted to another religion, which is unlikely, considering.
    True I dont consider myself Ashkenazi or Jewish. But I have now more interest in judaism and jews then before, but before I also liked jews, because of Holocaust. I will say Im interested in judaism and Israel and jews but Im not a jew. That being said, she might ask nazis for the one drop rule not jews though. I think even Hitler wouldnt have considered 5% to be jewish but nowadays with genetic tests it might be different as soon it is not noise anymore that nazis might consider you not pure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    So if a Jewish women marries a Christian and converts before their kid is born would the kid be considered a Jew?
    Some am ha'aretz might say yes, but most authorities would say no, and Israel would not allow that person to immigrate, interestingly enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Some am ha'aretz might say yes, but most authorities would say no, and Israel would not allow that person to immigrate, interestingly enough.
    I thought Israel let anyone with at least a Jewish grandparent immigrate regardless of religion?

    What's the Jewish attitude to former Mischling soldiers who fought for Germany in World War II? Would they be accepted by Israel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I thought Israel let anyone with at least a Jewish grandparent immigrate regardless of religion?
    Yeah, except if that person is a practitioner of a religion that is not Judaism. They used to let in Messianics and other converts, though. But they stopped a while ago after determining that they weren't even Jewish-adjacent like quarter-Jews are (zera yisra'el, to use the Halakhic term). Whilst the non-Jewish descendant of a Jew has some minor status in halakha, a 'halakhic Jew' who practises a non-Jewish religion is an apikores or heretic and is supposed to be placed in kherem or excommunicated wholesale, if they're considered Jewish at all.

    There is still a large-ish amount of Messianics and 'Jewish Christians' from before that law came into play, though.

    What's the Jewish attitude to former Mischling soldiers who fought for Germany in World War II? Would they be accepted by Israel?
    They'd get a bullet in their head if it were up to me, I doubt any tried to move there. But 'mischling Jewish soldiers in WWII' of which there were only a few thousand is not a talking point in Jewish circles. There are always kapos. In the 50s some kapos who moved to Israel were assassinated and people known to have been collaborators are considered less than dirt, as you can well imagine.
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