Genetic differentiation in S.Italy : new clusters and evidence from recent admixture from Greece

[Samnium]

What interest me the more is probably italic input.

"In northern Apulia, there was a tendency towards the development of fully urban communities. The Lucanians and Bruttians, however, were organised on less urbanised lines. There were fewer urban centres in Calabria and Basilicata—with the exception of the Greek cities— than was the case in Campania, and the tendency seems to have been towards a federal structure of smaller, proto-urban communities, with a small number of larger settlements which are sometimes referred to by the sources as poleis or urbes. 80" Rome and the western Greeks, Kathryn Lomas

[kefalonitis]

What I find strange it's the recent ancestry coming from Greece. There wasn't any record of greek migrations.

There was a migrant wave of Peloponesian Greeks to S.Italy in 16th&17th century.

[Samnium]

There was a migrant wave of Peloponesian Greeks to S.Italy in 16th&17th century.

Never heard about that. Interesting. In which part they came ? Coastal areas of Cosenza, inland, Reggio Calabria, Crotone, or Basilicata, Apulia ?

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[kefalonitis]

Never heard about that. Interesting. In which part they came ? Coastal areas of Cosenza, inland, Reggio Calabria, Crotone, or Basilicata, Apulia ?

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They settled in Italy after the defeat of Venetians from the Ottomans.
I don't know exactly in which part of S.Italy they established,but i've read that some of them moved even in Corsica.
They were mostly Maniots from south Peloponese.

edit:according to greek wiki they moved to Salento,Calabria and Sicily

[Samnium]

They settled in Italy after the defeat of Venetians from the Ottomans.
I don't know exactly in which part of S.Italy they established,but i've read that some of them moved even in Corsica.
They were mostly Maniots from south Peloponese.

edit:according to greek wiki they moved to Salento,Calabria and Sicily

Wow very interesting. This is impossible to find in any italian book about Calabria history, thank you for the information !

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[Samnium]

Something that confirm my theory about people that could have retained NW influence, or maybe other influences (Italic etc). I've found this post on Anthrogenica :

"I am a T2c1a born in Calabria Southern Italy Living Dna indicates 10% autosomal dna is similar to British (East Anglia) My mother's family is exceptionally tall and blue eyed my maternal uncles were 6'4 plus and I have a cousin known locally as "il Gigante" who is 6' 8" My theory is that height (and the T2c1a) comes via the Normans. The first King of Sicily Roger D'hautville's capital city, Mileto, was 10 miles away."

It's an incredible result, something more to put on the face of people that want to generalize Italian genetics.

10% English is quite a north-shift, and thinks that his paternal side had probably none, so his mother could have been like 20/25% English !

[Samnium]

Mileto is located in Southern Calabria for information.

[Samnium]

Bump

[Samnium]

There are very few calabrian samples and most of them come from Reggio Calabria/Catanzaro/Vibo Valentia.

Sikeliot found one "Tuscan" like Sicilian :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...s-Palermo-Enna

Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.94
2 West_Med 21.03
3 Atlantic 17.97
4 West_Asian 11.08
5 North_Sea 10.57
6 Baltic 8.17
7 Red_Sea 4.56
8 Northeast_African 1.24
9 Southeast_Asian 0.6
10 Eastern_Euro 0.47
11 Oceanian 0.32
12 Sub-Saharan 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 5.55
2 West_Sicilian 5.64
3 Italian_Abruzzo 6.8
4 East_Sicilian 7.22
5 Central_Greek 7.76
6 Greek 8.09
7 South_Italian 8.11
8 Greek_Thessaly 8.91
9 Ashkenazi 10.43
10 North_Italian 11.21
11 Italian_Jewish 12.05
12 Algerian_Jewish 13.08
13 Sephardic_Jewish 13.28
14 Bulgarian 14.41
15 Romanian 16.48
16 Tunisian_Jewish 17.32
17 Spanish_Andalucia 17.89
18 Spanish_Extremadura 18.21
19 Spanish_Murcia 18.53
20 Portuguese 18.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% South_Italian + 24.6% Southwest_French @ 2.88
2 74.8% South_Italian + 25.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.08
3 59% South_Italian + 41% North_Italian @ 3.08
4 70.2% South_Italian + 29.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.1
5 72% South_Italian + 28% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.11
6 72.3% South_Italian + 27.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.3
7 74.8% South_Italian + 25.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.31
8 73.3% South_Italian + 26.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.41
9 62.7% Tuscan + 37.3% South_Italian @ 3.41
10 72.8% South_Italian + 27.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.42
11 71.3% South_Italian + 28.7% Portuguese @ 3.42
12 71.4% South_Italian + 28.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.52
13 71% South_Italian + 29% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.53
14 72.4% South_Italian + 27.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.58
15 73.7% East_Sicilian + 26.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.61
16 81.4% South_Italian + 18.6% French_Basque @ 3.71
17 66% North_Italian + 34% Cyprian @ 3.77
18 83.7% East_Sicilian + 16.3% French_Basque @ 3.79
19 78.1% East_Sicilian + 21.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.79
20 75.8% East_Sicilian + 24.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.8

Not really Tuscan but maybe Umbrian-like. Maybe southern Tuscan tho.

[Samnium]

Another northern shifted sample :

Eurogenes K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.98
2 West_Med 19.67
3 North_Sea 15.87
4 Atlantic 15.38
5 West_Asian 13.66
6 Red_Sea 3.49
7 Baltic 3.19
8 Northeast_African 0.52
9 Sub-Saharan 0.23
10 Eastern_Euro 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 6.89
2 South_Italian 7.48
3 West_Sicilian 7.64
4 East_Sicilian 7.66
5 Central_Greek 7.81
6 Tuscan 8.96
7 Italian_Jewish 10.24
8 Ashkenazi 10.67
9 Greek_Thessaly 10.81
10 Greek 12.14
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.46
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.47
13 North_Italian 14.58
14 Tunisian_Jewish 16.33
15 Libyan_Jewish 16.58
16 Bulgarian 18.26
17 Cyprian 18.82
18 Romanian 19.6
19 Spanish_Extremadura 21.12
20 Portuguese 21.22

WHERE is Lebanon again?? ^^

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.2% South_Italian + 12.8% Orcadian @ 5.23
2 84.1% South_Italian + 15.9% West_German @ 5.29
3 86.2% South_Italian + 13.8% Southwest_English @ 5.33
4 82.5% South_Italian + 17.5% French @ 5.35
5 88.1% South_Italian + 11.9% West_Norwegian @ 5.39
6 80.5% South_Italian + 19.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.43
7 86.8% South_Italian + 13.2% Southeast_English @ 5.44
8 80.1% South_Italian + 19.9% Portuguese @ 5.49
9 87.7% South_Italian + 12.3% West_Scottish @ 5.52
10 87.6% South_Italian + 12.4% North_Dutch @ 5.58
11 87.7% South_Italian + 12.3% Irish @ 5.59
12 81.6% South_Italian + 18.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.61
13 88.2% South_Italian + 11.8% Norwegian @ 5.61
14 87.8% South_Italian + 12.2% Danish @ 5.67
15 80.9% South_Italian + 19.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.67
16 73.5% South_Italian + 26.5% North_Italian @ 5.7
17 85.5% South_Italian + 14.5% South_Dutch @ 5.71
18 80.8% South_Italian + 19.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.72
19 58.8% South_Italian + 41.2% Tuscan @ 5.72
20 79.2% Tuscan + 20.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.73


MDLP K23b:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.70
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.24
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.86
4 Near_East 9.26
5 North_African 8.04
6 South_Central_Asian 6.32


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_Trapani @ 3.211470
2 Sicilian_West @ 3.983752
3 Sicilian_Agrigento @ 5.226743
4 Sicilian_Siracusa @ 5.308137
5 Maltese @ 5.416505
6 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 5.853701
7 Sicilian_East @ 5.995245
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6.854903
9 Ashkenazi @ 7.053938
10 French_Jew @ 8.384623
11 Italian_Tuscan @ 9.129688
12 Romanian_Jew @ 9.143298
13 Sicilian_Center @ 9.241087
14 Italian_South @ 10.187780
15 Greek_Northwest @ 10.266053 <<< CLOSER TO EPIRUS THAN TO CRETE??
16 Greek_Peloponnesos @ 10.272348
17 Central_Greek @ 10.555231
18 Greek_Athens @ 10.619128
19 Cretan @ 10.654578
20 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.997079

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sicilian_Trapani +50% Sicilian_West @ 3.151285


Near East Neolithic K13:


# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 31.34
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 24.44
3 NATUFIAN 16.19
4 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 12.7
5 SHG_WHG 7.42
6 EHG 6.18
7 KARITIANA 0.88
8 SUB_SAHARAN 0.87

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian 4.42
2 Jew_Ashkenazi 7.64
3 Greek 7.84
4 Italian_South 9.16
5 Albanian 9.72
6 Jew_Moroccan 10.53
7 Bulgarian 14.44
8 Cypriot 14.65
9 Turkish_Istanbul 15.53
10 Jew_Libyan 15.54
11 Jew_Tunisian 15.54
12 Turkish 15.56
13 Romanian 17.59
14 Turkish_Balekesir 18.16
15 Turkish_Adana 19.01
16 Turkish_Aydin 19.05
17 Turkish_Kayseri 19.5
18 Lebanese 20.23
19 Sardinian 21.95
20 Croatian 22.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.6% Sicilian + 6.4% Europe_MNChL @ 2.51
2 87.8% Greek + 12.2% Levant_N @ 2.68
3 88.3% Jew_Ashkenazi + 11.7% Europe_MNChL @ 2.79
4 93.2% Sicilian + 6.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 3.04
5 95.3% Sicilian + 4.7% Europe_EN @ 3.05
6 96% Sicilian + 4% Anatolia_N @ 3.17
7 90.3% Jew_Ashkenazi + 9.7% Europe_EN @ 3.29
8 83.5% Albanian + 16.5% Levant_BA @ 3.38
9 93% Sicilian + 7% Stuttgart @ 3.45
10 86.8% Greek + 13.2% Levant_BA @ 3.5
11 91.7% Jew_Ashkenazi + 8.3% Anatolia_N @ 3.65
12 95.5% Sicilian + 4.5% Levant_N @ 3.67
13 94.3% Sicilian + 5.7% Armenia_ChL @ 3.78
14 90.9% Sicilian + 9.1% Sardinian @ 3.86
15 98.2% Sicilian + 1.8% Bichon @ 3.94
16 98.2% Sicilian + 1.8% SHG @ 3.94
17 96% Sicilian + 4% Levant_BA @ 3.98
18 98.2% Sicilian + 1.8% WHG @ 4.01
19 87.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 12.9% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.03
20 85.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.9% Stuttgart @ 4.13