3 Reasons Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus

[Östsvensk]

You're teasing apart ideological tidbits, while the NOI believes that an evil scientist called Yakub created white people.

On the Greek island Patmos.

They dont believe into heaven that’s what worries me most about them. Other than that IMO Jews in hundreds of years will dominate the world in numbers.

Judaism is more of a worldly religion. The concept of heaven and emphasis on afterlife was introduced in the New Testament, but there is an afterlife in Judaism as well, I believe.

Procreation is very important in Judaism. It's the first of the 613 commandments.

[TheMaestro]

On the Greek island Patmos.



Judaism is more of a worldly religion. The concept of heaven and emphasis on afterlife was introduced in the New Testament, but there is an afterlife in Judaism as well, I believe.

Procreation is very important in Judaism. It's the first of the 613 commandments.

Noice noice, still didnt get to read whole Torah.

[Pine]

On the Greek island Patmos.



Judaism is more of a worldly religion. The concept of heaven and emphasis on afterlife was introduced in the New Testament, but there is an afterlife in Judaism as well, I believe.

Procreation is very important in Judaism. It's the first of the 613 commandments.

G-d is much less forgiving in Judaism. There is more fear of punishment. And that punishment can come at any moment. There is also no promise of forgiveness, no matter how much you've changed or how genuinely sorry you are. You're correct - there is arguably no mention of the afterlife in the Torah (most of the First Testament). That aside, there is "the world to come", where the Messiah arrives and resurrects the dead. Not all make it to the world to come. There is also "Gehenom". That's where one's soul is cleansed and the procedure can be "spiritually" painful depending on how much needs to be cleansed. My Rabbi explained to me that the pain is one of guilt. Religious Jews told me that some souls can remain in Gehenom. I haven't verified this, as the afterlife is a sparse topic in Judaism. If I fuck up, lightning can strike me tomorrow. The claim that Jews have little to fear from G-d is a laughable understatement. There more of this in Judaism than in Christianity.

[Longbowman]

I have too much time on my hands that I once read that Muslims in American jail were offended by not splitting the Muslim groups up for prayer, when they did it for the Christians, and thus having to pray with the Nation of Islam.

Completely understandable tbqh. NOI are barely a step higher than scientologists.

Well, Farrakhan believes that they killed Jesus, or more specifically that Jews killed him. That conflicts with being a Muslim, since the Koran states and the Muslims believe that Jesus didn't die, but that God raised him to heaven in a similar manner as he did with St. Michael the Archangel in the New Testament.

Considering that even according to the NT, he was fine and happy three (or 40, depending on which part of the Bible you believe is true) days later, did anyone really kill Jesus? Can you kill God? At worst, someone cost him a weekend.

[Longbowman]

G-d is much less forgiving in Judaism. There is more fear of punishment. And that punishment can come at any moment. There is also no promise of forgiveness, no matter how much you've changed or how genuinely sorry you are. You're correct - there is arguably no mention of the afterlife in the Torah (most of the First Testament). That aside, there is "the world to come", where the Messiah arrives and resurrects the dead. Not all make it to the world to come. There is also "Gehenom". That's where one's soul is cleansed and the procedure can be "spiritually" painful depending on how much needs to be cleansed. My Rabbi explained to me that the pain is one of guilt. Religious Jews told me that some souls can remain in Gehenom. I haven't verified this, as the afterlife is a sparse topic in Judaism. If I fuck up, lightning can strike me tomorrow. The claim that Jews have little to fear from G-d is a laughable understatement. There more of this in Judaism than in Christianity.

Comparing any religion to Catholicism where your punishment won't happen until after you're dead and is almost entirely dependent on whether or not you loved a Jew from the 1st century or not is a bit bizarre. Of course, most Jews do believe in Olam Haba'ah, the world to come, and your portion of it will be greater or lesser depending on your works in this life - primarily bein adam v'khavera (being nice to other dudeskis) but also bein adam v'makom (religiousness).

Sincere repentance earns you forgiveness though. I also don't think anyone serious thinks you can stay in Gehinnom for longer than 11 months.

[Pine]

Comparing any religion to Catholicism where your punishment won't happen until after you're dead and is almost entirely dependent on whether or not you loved a Jew from the 1st century or not is a bit bizarre. Of course, most Jews do believe in Olam Haba'ah, the world to come, and your portion of it will be greater or lesser depending on your works in this life - primarily bein adam v'khavera (being nice to other dudeskis) but also bein adam v'makom (religiousness).

Sincere repentance earns you forgiveness though. I also don't think anyone serious thinks you can stay in Gehinnom for longer than 11 months.

I was taught the opposite.

[Östsvensk]

Comparing any religion to Catholicism where your punishment won't happen until after you're dead and is almost entirely dependent on whether or not you loved a Jew from the 1st century or not is a bit bizarre. Of course, most Jews do believe in Olam Haba'ah, the world to come, and your portion of it will be greater or lesser depending on your works in this life - primarily bein adam v'khavera (being nice to other dudeskis) but also bein adam v'makom (religiousness).

Sincere repentance earns you forgiveness though. I also don't think anyone serious thinks you can stay in Gehinnom for longer than 11 months.

As a Catholic, you have to perform the sacrament of penance when you have sinned. That comes in three stages, being truly sorry for what you've done, confessing to a priest and then do some work that benefits the community and is picked out by the priest.

[Longbowman]

I was taught the opposite.

I'm not willing to swear by what I said, but, my Jewish education is significantly more extensive than yours. I'm prepared to be proven wrong though.

[Loki]

Considering that even according to the NT, he was fine and happy three (or 40, depending on which part of the Bible you believe is true) days later, did anyone really kill Jesus? Can you kill God? At worst, someone cost him a weekend.

Please keep your blasphemy to yourself. Yes, Jesus died for your, and my, and the whole world's sins. Died, as in his body physically died... but was resurrected from the dead after 3 days. And then he appeared to many people -- now in his new, glorified resurrection body. Christians will also receive new, glorified resurrected bodies in the day of resurrection. I'm looking forward to mine.

[Loki]

G-d is much less forgiving in Judaism. There is more fear of punishment. And that punishment can come at any moment. There is also no promise of forgiveness, no matter how much you've changed or how genuinely sorry you are. You're correct - there is arguably no mention of the afterlife in the Torah (most of the First Testament). That aside, there is "the world to come", where the Messiah arrives and resurrects the dead. Not all make it to the world to come. There is also "Gehenom". That's where one's soul is cleansed and the procedure can be "spiritually" painful depending on how much needs to be cleansed. My Rabbi explained to me that the pain is one of guilt. Religious Jews told me that some souls can remain in Gehenom. I haven't verified this, as the afterlife is a sparse topic in Judaism. If I fuck up, lightning can strike me tomorrow. The claim that Jews have little to fear from G-d is a laughable understatement. There more of this in Judaism than in Christianity.

Yes, the God revealed through Jesus Christ is very different. Even so, those who reject him will ultimately pay "the ultimate price", and be tormented for all eternity. It is almost unthinkable, I know. Quite sobering. Some say hell is a device to scare people into serving God. No, it isn't... one's worship and service of God must be volutarily, not out of fear of going to hell. You cannot fool God... his Spirit searches everything, even the depths of man's heart, our deepest motives.