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    jews dont believe in jesus is the messiah because...

    1) Jesus did not raise the 3rd temple
    2) did not gather the jews around the world back to israel
    3) Jesus did not bring peace to the world & knowledge of God throughout the planet.


    for us christians , we call these things the 2nd coming of christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1R0N M4N XL View Post
    jews dont believe in jesus is the messiah because...

    1) Jesus did not raise the 3rd temple
    2) did not gather the jews around the world back to israel
    3) Jesus did not bring peace to the world & knowledge of God throughout the planet.


    for us christians , we call these things the 2nd coming of christ
    Those are just excuses. Mostly, it is because they keep clinging to what their rabbis tell them about Jesus, and they have incorporated lies about him into the Talmud, effectively blocking out Jesus knowledge and trust in Jesus for 2,000 years. Jesus was scathingly critical of the hypocritical rabbis, and they didn't like it very much. They had too much spiritual pride and couldn't recognise when God came to them through the life of Jesus Christ.
    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" ~ Heb 11:1

    "And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him." ~ Heb 11:6

    "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." ~ John 3:36

    "Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." ~ Rom 10:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Those are just excuses. Mostly, it is because they keep clinging to what their rabbis tell them about Jesus, and they have incorporated lies about him into the Talmud, effectively blocking out Jesus knowledge and trust in Jesus for 2,000 years. Jesus was scathingly critical of the hypocritical rabbis, and they didn't like it very much. They had too much spiritual pride and couldn't recognise when God came to them through the life of Jesus Christ.
    You're calling basic Jewish law an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1R0N M4N XL View Post
    jews dont believe in jesus is the messiah because...

    1) Jesus did not raise the 3rd temple
    2) did not gather the jews around the world back to israel
    3) Jesus did not bring peace to the world & knowledge of God throughout the planet.


    for us christians , we call these things the 2nd coming of christ
    He also wasn't a direct male descendant of King David (since, if I'm not mistaken, Christians believe he was the son of G-d).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    He also wasn't a direct male descendant of King David (since, if I'm not mistaken, Christians believe he was the son of G-d).
    Of course, because he was God who came in the form of a human. No human rules and regulations apply to God. He came to rescue humanity from hell... but even so many still choose to reject him and therefore reject the great gift of his love. People don't realise how real and how serious hell is. Wake up!!
    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" ~ Heb 11:1

    "And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him." ~ Heb 11:6

    "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." ~ John 3:36

    "Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." ~ Rom 10:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    You're calling basic Jewish law an excuse.
    Yes, misinterpretation of the messages of God that he sent to your people.

    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" ~ Heb 11:1

    "And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him." ~ Heb 11:6

    "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." ~ John 3:36

    "Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." ~ Rom 10:9

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    Do jews believe in an eternal life after death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Jews don't believe in Jesus because the messiah cannot die before completing his mission and G-d cannot have children.
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    Jesus lowered all the standards.
    You are obviously talking about things you are not informed about. If you read the New Testament you would have realized that Jesus raised all the standards to the maximum level, almost unattainable to humans. If the Messiah,, the one which you are falsely expecting (For us Antichrist, wolf in sheep' cloth, a deceiver) comes and brings peace to the world, what then? Is life going to continue, prosper and people are just out of blue going to stop being lustful, selfish, hypocrites, evil etc, without a single sin and we are all going to have a gangbang like in Pisslamic paradise? For Jews being a good boy, not stealing, not insulting people, having a decent life etc means not being sinful and for Jesus a single thought can makes you fall short of God's grace. So I don't know how you interpreted that as lowering the standards.

    I doubt some random human like that from your perspective is going to bring eternal peace and bring eternal life. Jesus came as a sower to plant seeds in the heart of men and Second Coming is a time for harvest. So we are both waiting for the Messiah to fulfill what has left to be fulfilled. In essence there is not much difference when it comes to that.

    18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”

    The Parable of the Weeds
    24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

    27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

    28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

    “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

    29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”
    As for your first post:
    Isaiah 53
    Who has believed our message
    and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
    2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
    and like a root out of dry ground.
    He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
    3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
    Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

    4 Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
    yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.
    5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
    6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to our own way;
    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.

    7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
    yet he did not open his mouth;
    he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
    and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
    so he did not open his mouth.
    8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
    Yet who of his generation protested?
    For he was cut off from the land of the living;
    for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b]
    9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
    and with the rich in his death,
    though he had done no violence,
    nor was any deceit in his mouth.

    10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
    and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
    he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
    and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
    11 After he has suffered,
    he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
    by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
    and he will bear their iniquities.
    12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
    and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
    because he poured out his life unto death,
    and was numbered with the transgressors.
    For he bore the sin of many,
    and made intercession for the transgressors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    It's super hard to swallow the Trinity from a non-Christian perspective.

    I enjoy talking to Unitarians, there are more around than you'd think.
    It doesn't matter how many Unitarians there are. They are wrong. Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven and peaceful eternal life, and the ONLY one who can save you from hell.

    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" ~ Heb 11:1

    "And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him." ~ Heb 11:6

    "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." ~ John 3:36

    "Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." ~ Rom 10:9

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