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Thread: Eye and hair colour distribution among 2002 Bulgarians (both sexes studied) + general comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xz2k9 View Post
    The reason why Gheg Albanians are lighter is because they are mountaineers or descendants of isolated mountaineers and mountaineers were said to be lighter on average than lowlanders by Ripley ...... Mountaineers were poorer and received less nutrition ... Light pigmentation was seen as a sign of poverty basically. + The Mountains are colder .... some people don't even survive winters there. and less oxygen.

    So it's not all about genetics, nutrition and many other things play a role.


    Croatians are mostly lowlanders living on the sea.
    This is a good example of retrospective reasoning and ignoring the actual data. 23 and me gave Albania a blueyed index of 67 while 121 to Croatia. Almost double
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6181535

    According to this chart Albanians are even darker eyed than Macedonians with almost 64% pure brown eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xz2k9 View Post
    You should do Kosovo. I can tell you people there have a similar pigmentation to Croatians. Actually, Dalmatians are probably darker than Kosovars.
    There might be some truth in this. I've often heard Kosovo Albanians stereotyped as being quite light pigmented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Yes he did. He found 21% blue eyes compared to Romania's 18%. He also found 45% pure brown eyes which taken together give quite a dark ratio which make me question weather Moldova is really around 50% light eyed based on Dyachenko's only 2 locations and a sample size of 100 and 64. Pittard had more than 400 of them.

    It' not labeled light mixed, stop lying. And I explained why my call on Romania was correct like 5 times now. You're a real pain in the ass.
    I've seen Chamla's study and I am not lying. It's that's also how you labelled them on your map of France , https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-France-(1940)

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    Quote Originally Posted by theuser View Post
    Wrong. If we take 7-12 it comes to 48 and 26. That can't be a proof of what a scale is. The description would be.
    I counted your numbers from the post and it comes to 38. Check again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theuser View Post
    I've seen Chamla's study and I am not lying. It's that's also how you labelled them on your map of France , https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-France-(1940)
    Pittard doesn't call them intermediate light. Just intermediate. Besides, different studies have different colors labeled with different terms. It wouldn't necessarily be proof even if they were labeled intermediate light. One study from Turkey labels light brown eyes in the "light" category

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    There might be some truth in this. I've often heard Kosovo Albanians stereotyped as being quite light pigmented.
    There are plenty of them in my neighborhood and in my apartment building and literally every one of them is dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Yes it is. It's from a professional thesis that quotes the book. The link is few pages back.
    Would you cite the link anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    There are plenty of them in my neighborhood and in my apartment building and literally every one of them is dark.
    Same in my city. And I don't mean insult. Women are very beautiful. But they are dark compared to us on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theuser View Post
    Would you cite the link anyway?
    https://istina.cemi-ras.ru/media/pub...sertatsiya.pdf

    p43,44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    So this Bunak scale also doesn't make an exception and has multiple versions. The problem of most studies is they may report a scale with a name but never attach any image of the version they used. Here The Blade at least helped us visualize what is considered light to his work. As to the new study on Moldovans - you can't know how to derive a figure from it. Neither excluding 6 nor including it works. It may refer to hazel eyes to uniform green but surely 7-12 is 50%+. Romanians between 7-12 like Bulgarians constitute about 40% but including 6 exceed 50%. I find it interesting that in this study Belarusians between 7-12 make up about 85%. Some Ukrainians and Slovaks on average - exactly 80%. Poles - 89%. But Czechs - exactly 60%. And samples are all more than 60. I don't know why Slovaks would make up 80% and Czechs 60%. It means that 6 probably includes uniform green here which is 10% more in Czechs.
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