What’s the most MESOMORPHIC European phenotype.

[ciftci]

But that's not true also. I know a lot of taller people that are just naturally burly and robust. Take, Polynesians for example. Their males are usually around 5'9 around 5'11 tall, at least those that I see, and they are chubby to beefy. Something else I noticed, those Caucasoid types with short broad heads, regardless of height (tall or short), are also usually meaty and burly as well. On the other hand, some short Med types with long heads seem naturally skinny and would hardly put on weight. And I doubt that they eat less. They just have a fast metabolism. Or perhaps it's their bone structure. I really don't know. But the idea that, tall equals skinny and short means you're more likely to be fat is unfounded, superficial and stereotypical at best, when there are tall and big Bavarian types in German and short, skinny Mediterraneans in our midst. Though I'm not saying height has no factor at all in how much fat or muscle you can gain (or lose).

It's about Arctic or equatorial evolution. Arctic people tend to have short legs, long torsos, short arms to keep body heat on body. They tend to be mesomorphic or endomorphic. Meanwhile, equatorial evolution led ectomorphic people. I think Neanderthals are good examples of this. They are mesomorphic or endomorphic by skeleton structure due to evolving in harsh European ice age.

[Pine]

But that's not true also. I know a lot of taller people that are just naturally burly and robust. Take, Polynesians for example. Their males are usually around 5'9 around 5'11 tall, at least those that I see, and they are chubby to beefy. Something else I noticed, those Caucasoid types with short broad heads, regardless of height (tall or short), are also usually meaty and burly as well. On the other hand, some short Med types with long heads seem naturally skinny and would hardly put on weight. And I doubt that they eat less. They just have a fast metabolism. Or perhaps it's their bone structure. I really don't know. But the idea that, tall equals skinny and short means you're more likely to be fat is unfounded, superficial and stereotypical at best, when there are tall and big Bavarian types in German and short, skinny Mediterraneans in our midst. Though I'm not saying height has no factor at all in how much fat or muscle you can gain (or lose).

This has been studied before. They don't.

[Zroota]

This has been studied before. They don't.

Will take your word there. But is there a reason why some ethnic groups or racial types are bigger/smaller than the others? Say, for example, the burly, relatively tall Bavarians and the shorter, slimmer Meds.

[Pine]

Will take your word there. But is there a reason why some ethnic groups or racial types are bigger/smaller than the others? Say, for example, the burly, relatively tall Bavarians and the shorter, slimmer Meds.

I'm not denying that there may be such a cause, but it's not basal metabolism. Appetite regulation may differ ethnically. And as far as body composition, sure, there will be some correlation in the following way, but notice all the degrees of separation: Those with higher prenatal/pubertal testosterone (and other androgens) tend to have both higher androgens later in life and those "robust" bone structures. Then people on the opposite ends of the natural testosterone range will have a difference of few a pounds of muscle that's there without activity. That's really as far as it goes. We're talking about a few pounds of muscle at the same bodyweight, that doesn't even happen consistently, but with a slight correlation. However, you need to factor in there is more to a frame than height. Someone with a wider skeletal frame will also be leaner, for the simple reason that more of their weight will be bone + muscle needed to move that bone. Once you control for all of that, it's a difference of maybe 5lbs of muscle, which hardly shows up consistently. And when both them go to lift and near their natural potential, the difference is a lot smaller than the initial 5lbs. Of course, we're assuming that diet and lifestyle are controlled for, which it isn't when you compare Bavarians to "Meds". Have fun making an argument that Germans have some genetic factor which makes them more sensitive to androgens. The one study that found any difference among European ethnicities, found that Italians "naturally" carried more muscle.

[Golden Lining]

Not necessarily what’s the biggest. I already know who has the biggest frames but is there a European phenotype that displays pure mesomorphy such as seen among Western Africans? Exemplified by medium to large frame and low body fat levels with high amounts of muscle naturally without training.


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You don't know what "mesomorphic" is. In fact, Africans aren't very mesomorphic. Mesomorphic is Dinaric, Patagonid and Silvid and some Nordic subtypes.

[Daos777]

You don't know what "mesomorphic" is. In fact, Africans aren't very mesomorphic. Mesomorphic is Dinaric, Patagonid and Silvid and some Nordic subtypes.

1. What is mesomorphic according to you?


2. Show me real life examples of these so called Patagonid and Silvid races.

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These dudes aren’t mesomorphic at all? All they do is calisthenics and don’t eat the most optimal diet for bodybuilding.