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    Quote Originally Posted by Evrim View Post
    No one is obligated to take refugees. Look at Israel, they don't take any Syrians. I hope Jews create heaven in Middle East with strict ethnic laws and people see, alternative is possible.
    Jews are not even one single race. They take in indians, asians and blacks if they are jewish. They just dont take in muslims or arabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Jews are not even one single race. They take in indians, asians and blacks if they are jewish. They just dont take in muslims or arabs.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5034383/
    You are wrong. Remember how Israel send Ethiopian Judaists to other countries, mostly European countries.
    Israel is will be a shining star in Middle East and show everyone diversity is not strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Jews are not even one single race. They take in indians, asians and blacks if they are jewish. They just dont take in muslims or arabs.
    You must not be aware of gay Palestinian refugees from Gaza in Israel. Israel also has a Lebanese minority that it took in. Israel has also taken in Asian refugees (yes, not Jewish).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Syrians are westasians. Turkey has both european and westasian looking people. They arent as dark as indians or blacks or foreign.
    I'm not sure how we should classify West Asian type people, whom ever they are, but that's not where I disagreed. Anyway, I don't want to derail the Thread is a lengthy sidebar discussion. Suffice it to say that the assimilation process, also known as "Turkification" well that can get really messy.

    Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia: Armenian orphans were given Arabic and Turkish names. By October 1918, with the Ottoman army retreating from Lebanon, a Father Sarlout sent the Turkish and Kurdish orphans to Damascus, while keeping the Armenian orphans in Antoura. He began the process of reversing the Turkification process by having the Armenian orphans recall their original names.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evrim View Post
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5034383/
    You are wrong. Remember how Israel send Ethiopian Judaists to other countries, mostly European countries.
    Israel is will be a shining star in Middle East and show everyone diversity is not strength.
    This never happened. They weren't Jews and didn't claim to be Jews. They also weren't from Ethiopia. They were from Sudan and Eritrea. They were refugees who were shot by every Arab nation they attempted to enter. Israel housed them for a while and then Europe agreed to take them in.

    As for the study, it's really one of those new sociology- "lived experience" studies. The one case they mentioned, in reality asked for a paternity test and not a "DNA test". This is because her documents didn't make it clear that she was her father's daughter. No one was tested there for "Jewish DNA". Rather, her father was accepted as a Jew and she needed to demonstrate that she was his daughter.

    However, recently the Rabbinate has gone utterly retarded and selectively questions the ancestry of Soviet Jews, where it has asked some to take DNA tests when their documentation seemed to be clear. This is the result of 2 things: pressure and anti-Soviet Jewish bias from the Mizrachi/Sephardi Haredi party in Israel (Shas) and the fact that a few non-Jews from the FSU entered Israel on false documents. That said, in a lot of the cases, a DNA test has simply been offered as an option to demonstrate one's Jewishness when documents attesting to it simply aren't available. Keep in mind, all of this Rabbinate stuff concerns marriage and burial, as opposed to immigration to Israel, where DNA tests haven't been used to my knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    This never happened. They weren't Jews and didn't claim to be Jews. They also weren't from Ethiopia. They were from Sudan and Eritrea. They were refugees who were shot by every Arab nation they attempted to enter. Israel housed them for a while and then Europe agreed to take them in.

    As for the study, it's really one of those new sociology- "lived experience" studies. The one case they mentioned, in reality asked for a paternity test and not a "DNA test". This is because her documents didn't make it clear that she was her father's daughter. No one was tested there for "Jewish DNA". Rather, her father was accepted as a Jew and she needed to demonstrate that she was his daughter.

    However, recently the Rabbinate has gone utterly retarded and selectively questions the ancestry of Soviet Jews, where it has asked some to take DNA tests when their documentation seemed to be clear. This is the result of 2 things: pressure and anti-Soviet Jewish bias from the Mizrachi/Sephardi Haredi party in Israel (Shas) and the fact that a few non-Jews from the FSU entered Israel on false documents. That said, in a lot of the cases, a DNA test has simply been offered as an option to demonstrate one's Jewishness when documents attesting to it simply aren't available. Keep in mind, all of this Rabbinate stuff concerns marriage and burial, as opposed to immigration to Israel, where DNA tests haven't been used to my knowledge.
    this guy thinks moses existed btw. take everything he says with a truck full of salt.

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    Refugee thing is becoming a huge mess recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I think Turks often assimilated succesfully foreign populations. For example they accepted lots of caucasians who escaped genocide from Russia and Soviet Union. They accepted Balkan Muslims who fled the Serbs and Greeks and such from genocide. The difference is Syrians are not white or european though. But they arent also that dark either. Turkey has lots of kurds too and such people who are similar to Syrians. I think Syrians are not really problematic and they would increase Turkeys population hence resources if they assimilate as Turks. Turkey is already somewhat middle eastern or bridge between europe and middle east. And Syrians are also not really dark skinned. I saw a syrian woman and she looked like a turkish woman with black hair and light beige skin.
    Typical leftist pro-minority "dindu nuffin" bullshit. That people are totally alien to the country in any means.
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    1. The overwhelming majority of "Balkan refugees" from Turkey are ethnic Turks who lived over there.

    2. Circassians were genocided and ethnic cleansed, and they contributed positively to the country whilst the current "refugees", only negatively. Terrible comparison.

    3. 90% Syrians/Iraqis/Afghans are not refugees, they are economic migrants. The majority spend their entire days smoking shisha snd filming women in beaches with their expensive iPhones. Meanwhile Turkish soldiers die in the war and Turks work to pay expensive taxes to keep their leech lifestyle. Go figure.

    4. Turkey is from the Turks. In the same way their have their own countries, we have ours. We don't have to integrate anyone if we don't want.

    5. No problematic? I'm imagining if they happen to become a new big minority and try to get independence like the Kurds. If we follow your logic, we will be minority in our own country...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kivan View Post
    Typical leftist pro-minority "dindu nuffin" bullshit. That people are totally alien to the country in any means.
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    1. The overwhelming majority of "Balkan refugees" from Turkey are ethnic Turks who lived over there.

    2. Circassians were genocided and ethnic cleansed, and they contributed positively to the country whilst the current "refugees", only negatively. Terrible comparison.

    3. 90% Syrians/Iraqis/Afghans are not refugees, they are economic migrants. The majority spend their entire days smoking shisha snd filming women in beaches with their expensive iPhones. Meanwhile Turkish soldiers die in the war and Turks work to pay expensive taxes to keep their leech lifestyle. Go figure.

    4. Turkey is from the Turks. In the same way their have their own countries, we have ours. We don't have to integrate anyone if we don't want.

    5. No problematic? I'm imagining if they happen to become a new big minority and try to get independence like the Kurds. If we follow your logic, we will be minority in our own country...

    Exactly. Turkey needs evolved people, migrants would be a liability for our development. Actually, we are going back demographically already.

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    i would like to help turkey with theyr demographic problem!! inshallah

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