Why do Englishmen seem effeminate compared to Americans?

[Creoda]

How many people from London do you know, RB?



I wouldn't say that, we just deported our criminal class to a desert island with giant bouncing rats back in the 19th century so the remnant population is a lot calmer than it otherwise would be.

[Davystayn]

The latter . You get three types of landowner in Somerset. The farmer with the girt bit of land, the old money and the downsizing retired.

Old money.

Oh yes loads of that in Somerset lol, the rural economy is still almost feudal imo, the top lot are an odd bunch totally agree

[PaleoEuropean]

Because they don't eat enough bacon.

[Creoda]

Because they don't eat enough bacon.

Gotta have a bacon licence for that.

[Daco Celtic]

1980s pop culture plays into it. Bands/Artists like the Pet Shop Boys, WHAM, Boy George, and Bronski Beat reinforced the stereotype. Let's not forget Mr. Belvedere.

[Richmondbread]

1980s pop culture plays into it. Bands/Artists like the Pet Shop Boys, WHAM, Boy George, and Bronski Beat reinforced the stereotype. Let's not forget Mr. Belvedere.

I never thought Mr Belvedere was a gay. Just very pretentious and crabby.

[Daco Celtic]

I never thought Mr Belvedere was a gay. Just very pretentious and crabby.

He looked a little effeminate cast next to the macho Bob Uecker.

[Cristiano viejo]

I have a theory that the bold, strong Englishmen went over to the Colonies while the weaker, more tender ones stayed in the mother country. The strong Englishmen encouraged a more masculine society, that eventually became essentially American. American men model after this, and probably the English settlers were more adventurous and had more testosterone. American culture derived from Anglo culture, mixed with African, and some Germanic. That is what makes it unique. But in England today, we can see even the physicality of Englishmen to be rather weak and frail. It's not trying to be insulting, just a theory. What do Y'all think?

I think that is not the reason. People that went to America, and not only English but French, Spaniards, Portuguese, Irish, etc, were low class citizens the most of the cases, poor as fuck. They went to kill the hunger.

And if they were the poorest in their respective countries, that means they were the weakest.

[Latinus]

Don't know about effeminate, but when I picture white Americans vs English people, the former I associate more with robust/strong build types, while the latter with more thin/classy types, even if many Britons have Brunn/Borreby types.

I know that White Americans are pred-British (more mixed with continental Euros than Australians/Kiwis, but still pred-British), but there are some looks that I think are more common in the US than England and vice versa, despite these populations being interchangeable, for obvious genetical/ancestry reasons.

[Norb]

Don't know about effeminate, but when I picture white Americans vs English people, the former I associate more with robust/strong build types, while the latter with more thin/classy types, even if many Britons have Brunn/Borreby types.

I know that White Americans are pred-British (more mixed with continental Euros than Australians/Kiwis, but still pred-British), but there are some looks that I think are more common in the US than England and vice versa, despite these populations being interchangeable, for obvious genetical/ancestry reasons.

can you post a male and female who you think have the 'American look' and a male and female that you think look British?