Do you think the Caucasus is white?

[user_]

In terms of architecture and religion, they are mostly Eastern European, I agree. As for phenotypes, many of them might pass in Southern Europe and Balkans but I wouldn’t call average Georgian phenotype as generic European look.

How does generic European look? Like Finn or like Spaniard?
I think Georgian phenotype pass in european diversity.
Georgians do not have any significant components from East, South Asia or Near East, they are mostly Caucasian and that is visible.

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[user_]

Kalmykia is much more northern than Georgia, or whole Caucasus, and west from Ural mountains, therefore it's Europe by geography.
So this is Kalmykya in Europe

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And this is Georgia not in Europe.

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The border between Europe and Asia can't be defined by rivers and mountains.

[21993]

How does generic European look?

Like an average Central European like German, Czech, Polish, Slovakian, Austrian, Swiss, Slovenian, etc.

[Sche]

How does generic European look? Like Finn or like Spaniard?
I think Georgian phenotype pass in european diversity.
Georgians do not have any significant components from East, South Asia or Near East, they are mostly Caucasian and that is visible.

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The term "white man" does not have Georgian and East European descent. I am sure that the ancestors of the Russians did not consider you black. Cossacks and Russians were alien to racial segregation. But neither you nor we are white. Since this is primarily a cultural term referring to Iberia and Northwest Europeans. Do you want to chase him? Me not. If to draw conclusions on DNA, Georgians do not have a complete set of European components. If the term "white" is conventionally called genetic, then Georgians do not have the most important component of Europeans, this is EHG. What determined the racial type of both Europeans and Georgians. Tatars, in this sense, have more rights to be called "white", despite the high Siberian component.

[Sche]

they have almost no more reasons to be called european other than the geographic location for some many of them if not most do not even live in europe. and european is not defined as having steppe admixture. you could also say they are genetically less westeurasian than georgians.

How is European defined?

[Samnium]

The term "white man" does not have Georgian and East European descent. I am sure that the ancestors of the Russians did not consider you black. Cossacks and Russians were alien to racial segregation. But neither you nor we are white. Since this is primarily a cultural term referring to Iberia and Northwest Europeans. Do you want to chase him? Me not. If to draw conclusions on DNA, Georgians do not have a complete set of European components. If the term "white" is conventionally called genetic, then Georgians do not have the most important component of Europeans, this is EHG. What determined the racial type of both Europeans and Georgians. Tatars, in this sense, have more rights to be called "white", despite the high Siberian component.

Everybody wants to claim themselves as europeans, it's incredible.

And when I say everybody it's everybody from latinos to Caucasians.

Caucasians are very distinct from european populations if they partake some components, they differ in the rest of their DNA.

Obviously I exclude Armenia.

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[Sche]

Everybody wants to claim themselves as europeans, it's incredible.

And when I say everybody it's everybody from latinos to Caucasians.

Caucasians are very distinct from european populations if they partake some components, they differ in the rest of their DNA.

Obviously I exclude Armenia.

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Georgia and Armenia today really want to join the EU, hence their desire to live for Europeans. By the way, do you think the Finns are Europeans?

[Tigranes]

Georgia and Armenia today really want to join the EU, hence their desire to live for Europeans. By the way, do you think the Finns are Europeans?

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[Samnium]

Georgia and Armenia today really want to join the EU, hence their desire to live for Europeans. By the way, do you think the Finns are Europeans?

Hum difficult to say, I would still think that they are european even if at the northern fringe. They are still in Europe geographically, and genetically they might have some mongoloid admixture (that would not make him off-white at all).

For an anecdote sometimes ago I saw a kabyle that had asked to a person that I know if he could be "an european, simply dating back to 500 years ago" because his family was apparently light (in hair color, eye color etc.). It's a shame that a lot of people don't embrace their history and prefer to be ridicule by trying to claiming themselves as europeans using incredible theories.

Armenia is certainly the least of the Caucasian countries that can say that they are partly "europeans", I can say without a doubt that Turkish are more "european" not only because of the heavy balkans admixture but also they have quite high Steppe for a N-European population and are removed from Levant whereas Armenia are not that far from Assyrians and Northern Levant populations.

[Zroota]

Everybody wants to claim themselves as europeans, it's incredible.

And when I say everybody it's everybody from latinos to Caucasians.

Caucasians are very distinct from european populations if they partake some components, they differ in the rest of their DNA.

Obviously I exclude Armenia.

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That may be correct, but North Caucasus is still part of Europe (in southwestern Russia). So the ethnic groups there such as the Circassians, Abkhazians, Chechens, etc, are European, despite not being that closely clustered with Europeans. The truth of the matter is that geographical maps nearly always include the North Caucasus (above Georgia) to be part of Europe, just the same way peripheral countries like Cyprus and Malta are considered part of Europe in maps. Not to mention, a continent doesn't equal, or is homogeneous to an, ethnicity. West Asians for instance plot closer to some southern Europeans and North Africans, than they do with East Asians. So, by that logic, we can say West Asians are not "Asian", or West Asia/the Middle East is not in Asia. You're taking the whole "continent equals race" thing very literally and it isn't very logical. So again, yes, North Caucasus is European, if you count geography.




P.S. Latinos have some European ancestry btw. So they make a point. You'd make a case if you say some West Asian or North African group want to be European when they're mostly non-European in ancestry.