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    Of course, the distance between Slavic and Balkan cluster in Tsne is exaggerated, i.e. does not mean anything.
    In some runs they come very close.

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    The plot above is part of this big plot:


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    @Pht2ter

    Can you make K36 Ancient T-SNE plot?

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G1...pEZDLFd3ZEm52L

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    removed duplicate
    Last edited by ph2ter; 10-17-2019 at 02:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    @Pht2ter

    Can you make K36 Ancient T-SNE plot?

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G1...pEZDLFd3ZEm52L
    I will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    I will do.
    Include these samples please (if they are not in that spreadsheet I will send you their results):

    1. Neolithic & Copper Age:

    UKR_Dereivka_I_En2:I4110

    2. Bronze Age & Iron Age:

    POL_EBA:I6579
    Corded_Ware_POL:N47
    Corded_Ware_POL:N49
    HUN_Vatya:RISE479
    HUN_Mako_EBA:I1502
    Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I3528
    Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5531
    Bell_Beaker_CZE:I5025
    Scythian_HUN:DA191
    Scythian_UKR:scy009

    3. Migration Period & Medieval:

    CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569
    HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
    HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
    UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:MJ19
    KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160

    If I have time I will post their results later.

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    This is RISE479, Hungary Vatya culture:

    Kit number - GC9092946
    Last edited by Peterski; 10-17-2019 at 01:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Include these samples please (if they are not in that spreadsheet I will send you their results):

    1. Neolithic & Copper Age:

    UKR_Dereivka_I_En2:I4110

    2. Bronze Age & Iron Age:

    POL_EBA:I6579
    Corded_Ware_POL:N47
    Corded_Ware_POL:N49
    HUN_Vatya:RISE479
    HUN_Mako_EBA:I1502
    Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I3528
    Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5531
    Bell_Beaker_CZE:I5025
    Scythian_HUNA191
    Scythian_UKR:scy009

    3. Migration Period & Medieval:

    CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569
    HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
    HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
    UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:MJ19
    KAZ_Golden_Horde_EuroA29
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
    Send all results. The names are sometimes different, so I will know if they are already in the spreadsheet if you give me all samples.

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    Cool. It appears I am on the south east bend of the Balkan cluster.

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    Ancients with my moderns' averages and with users (Amerindian, African and Pacific samples should be removed, because they do not plot logically):


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