Physical traits corresponding with psychological traits?

[Lorene]

I've noticed narrow faced males are usually very feminine whereas broadfaced males are more masculine and have more testosterone. There are also studies which confirm this.

High levels of testosterone only contribute to higher cancer rates and higher risk of male pattern baldness NOT "Masculinity"

Therefore, low testosterone levels are sometimes associated with taller stature in some males.

[Harkonnen]

High levels of testosterone only contribute to higher cancer rates and higher risk of male pattern baldness NOT "Masculinity"

Nonsense high levels of testosterone is very important for male health. Otherwise you get ball cancer and behave very wimpy and can't get it up etc...

[Peasant]

Nonsense high levels of testosterone is very important for male health. Otherwise you get ball cancer and behave very wimpy and can't get it up etc...

More like normal levels of free/bioavailable testosterone.

[Agrippa]

I've noticed narrow faced males are usually very feminine whereas broadfaced males are more masculine and have more testosterone. There are also studies which confirm this.

That's crap. There were one or two such studies, but these are erroneous.

The reason for this is easy to explain, because it is about specific facial traits, not the width or shortness of the face in general - such a statistical link, if it is exists in a specific population, will be always MUCH WEAKER than a direct comparison of the really DECISIVE TRAITS.

On average, males have an absolutely and relatively longer face in all statistics.

This is a good direct comparison of a very feminine vs. a very masculine facial shape:



More important than the facial index is the ruggedness of the features and the higher chin-jaw region, the sharpened facial outline etc.

Note also the eye region, the smaller nose of the feminine version etc.

This is a good comparison, because it is a similar basic type, not a comparison of distorted tendencies because of other variables.

Note that the very masculine face is closer to both Cromagnid and Atlanto-Nordoid (progressive), the very feminine face closer to infantile Alpinoid and Baltoid forms in particular.

For the whole body, the same constitutional, but a different sexual type expression for normal males, high gynandromorphy left, low (more masculine) right:



Compare with the typical male and female body type of average Europids:


Male face morph rated high for attractiveness:


Average morph:


Male face morph rated low for attractiveness:

High levels of testosterone only contribute to higher cancer rates and higher risk of male pattern baldness NOT "Masculinity"

The true reason for male pattern baldness lies in other genetic factors though. There are highly masculine males with no baldness and rather feminine ones which are bald, because of this specific genetic factors which contribute to the sensitiveness of the hair to male hormones.

So higher testosterone levels increase the risk just somewhat, on average, but are, in the end, not really decisive.

However, VERY high levels of male hormones can have other more important negative effects too, especially psychologically. So neither too low nor all too high hormone levels are ideal for the majority of males, but rather an intermediate amount.

[Harkonnen]

High levels of testosterone only contribute to higher cancer rates and higher risk of male pattern baldness NOT "Masculinity"

I rather live 50 years as a man than 100 as a woman.

Therefore, low testosterone levels are sometimes associated with taller stature in some males.

I've heard about this. Funny.

[Harkonnen]

yeah yeah Grippa. I know, messing around. I think the face breadth thingy doesn't count for example the height of your forehead perhaps?
Though it is not total crap. You do know that you can have rugged features also in broad face. Another thing is weather excessively masculine features are preferred by ladies or faggots or whatever.

[Aces High]

I have noticed that people with mullets and people who are fat are generally poor.

[Harkonnen]

I have noticed that people with mullets and people who are fat are generally poor.

Please explain him

[Agrippa]

yeah yeah Grippa. I know, messing around. I think the face breadth thingy doesn't count for example the height of your forehead perhaps?

Talking about heights, the height of your chin-jaw is an important factor.

That's one reason why masculine individuals have actually longer faces: Their midface is about the same, but their chin-jaw region is higher.

Though it is not total crap. You do know that you can have rugged features also in broad face.

But you can have a broad face with soft-infantile features too!

Fact is, that is not conclusive or decisive, other traits are!

And you have ALWAYS to consider the population in question, because I'm pretty sure, a Nordid - Dalofaelid sample will score differently from a Nordid - Baltid sample...

Another thing is weather excessively masculine features are preferred by ladies or faggots or whatever.

Coarse features are not preferred by females, especially not higher standing ones.

But masculine features are, especially if being combined in a harmonious and "non-brutal", more refined way. The typical ideal male is a refined masculine individual. Not hypermasculine, for sure not feminised for the vast majority.

However, highly masculine and highly feminine males are both somewhat more problematic in certain respects and often more likely to be sexually perverted, like homosexuality.

As I said, the normal-intermediate range is best, probably with a tip towards stronger masculinity...

I have noticed that people with mullets and people who are fat are generally poor.

And
- less attractive
- less educated
- less intelligent

[Harkonnen]

Talking about heights, the height of your chin-jaw is an important factor.

That's one reason why masculine individuals have actually longer faces: Their midface is about the same, but their chin-jaw region is higher.

Yeah I was thinking also about the chin. I think what is a sort of key is overall large features.

But you can have a broad face with soft-infantile features too!

Fact is, that is not conclusive or decisive, other traits are!

And you have ALWAYS to consider the population in question, because I'm pretty sure, a Nordid - Dalofaelid sample will score differently from a Nordid - Baltid sample...

What? You're implying that those rugged features can only appear in 'faelid Germany'? lol, you are one funny sod.

Coarse features are not preferred by females, especially not higher standing ones.

But masculine features are, especially if being combined in a harmonious and "non-brutal", more refined way. The typical ideal male is a refined masculine individual. Not hypermasculine, for sure not feminised for the vast majority.

However, highly masculine and highly feminine males are both somewhat more problematic in certain respects and often more likely to be sexually perverted, like homosexuality.

As I said, the normal-intermediate range is best, probably with a tip towards stronger masculinity...

Females tastes vary.