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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post

    As for Czechs, you could try to do your own study for Poles vs Czechs, I'd even review the results for you because I'm curious about it myself, I'm not the first person who has claimed Czechs are lighter haired(Poles are lighter eyed). There's no point of posting those random Czech numbers by an anthropologist without posting Polish numbers from the exact same anthropologist.
    Ok in your methodology they were lighter. But I'm very sceptical for usefulness of photography to estimation of hair color.

    For example me when I was in school. On first photo I was looking light or medium brown, on second very light (and it was taken year or two years later). In fact I was in the middle between those two images, on second photo must be strong sunlight. Now I'm much darker btw.
    So how many times you saw such images with not proper lightning conditions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    For a dark blonde person to be counted as blonde, he must have full blonde/yellow looking hair in direct lighting, outdoors, in a majority of photos, doesn't count for indoor photos. If someone has still has "dirty blonde" looking hair outdoors rather than regular blonde in extreme lighting, that person has light brown hair.
    I think often what makes hair look dark blonde rather than light brown is not that it looks "yellow", but rather that it looks desaturated. There is also a continuum between red hair and non-red hair, so that many people who have non-red hair still have hair that looks semi-red, which is another factor that makes some people's hair look more brown rather than blonde.

    The photos below are of players in the Swedish top-level and second-level men's football leagues. They represent different examples of dark blonde or light brown hair, or in some cases medium-blonde, medium-brown, or red hair. Based on outdoor pics, I would classify most of the players as having blonde hair, but the players whose hair looks more brown than blonde often also have hair that looks either less desaturated or more reddish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pansarkamrat View Post
    Light hair is way higher in Sweden atleast if you only count with Swedes. Swedes are atleast 75% or 80% Blond and lightbrown haired.
    Actually his data seems to match Lundman's maps (Lundman was a Swede)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Actually his data seems to match Lundman's maps (Lundman was a Swede)

    What i have seen IRL it seems like dark hair meaning mediumbrown and darker is as common as dark eyes or slightly but not much more common. Meaning less then 20% of Swedes have it

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    Great to see you publish this work of yours, my friend! Last map is very interesting.
    As I understand, it excludes not just Nordo-Med (Atlantid) but the pure Atlanto-Med, too, otherwise results for many states would have been higher.
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    Makes sense, I've always said there is very little light hair where I live.

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    Eye color?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Example of pure red hair:


    (Kristofer Hivju)

    Most red hair numbers were under 1% so obviously it not showing up in some countries is the margin of error showing up.
    Kristofer Hivju's hair is clearly strawberry blonde actually:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    Isn't "dark blonde"/"dirty blonde" a variant of blonde and not of brown? If someone's hair looks dark blonde in outdoor lighting, why would their hair be light brown and not dark blonde?
    These men have brown hair.

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    Romania:

    0% blondism - true
    4% light hair - true (not black, not dark brown)

    actually Romanians call light brown to be blond, which shows Romanians are a Mediterranean nation recently displaced north

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