Türknek érzed magad?

[blogen]

hajra turan

This map is the map of the Hungarian-holocaust: the Ottoman conquest. when the Ottomans massacred three-fourth of the Magyars . So no, NOT HAJRÁ, if this is Turan for you!

[Benyzero]

Emperor xyperium

[Jana]

Is there a topic regarding Ugric vs Turkic debate, as in sense who do you feel is core of your group ? If not somebody should open it.
I would write in Hungarian here as I learned it quite well but I still make too many grammar errors.

[Jana]

A few years ago I read many Ottoman chronicles, Hungarians were always the most feared enemy until the 16th century. greeks,serbs,bulgarians, romanians, and many other were all subjugated .

You never subjugated us, much smaller nation than Hungarian.

[MustafaTekin]

You never subjugated us, much smaller nation than Hungarian.

Where did i say a word about the Croats? by "others" I meant others. for more info see xiperyum's signature.

And dubrovnik had its golden age thanks to Turkish protection.

[Turxanthus]

Double

[Turxanthus]

Under the Ottomans, the Romanians (Vlah) were not fully part of the state. Erdel and around were autonomous regions like Crimea Tatars. That's hardly subjugation.

And by using fawls in Islam, the Serbs, Albanians and Greks subjugated the Ottomans after 16th century.

Thus it was Balkan people who invaded Hungary not the Turks. Why should Turks embrace the Islamo-Balkan destruction of Hungary?

Ottoman state returned to Turks only in 19th century. Kılıç Ali Pasha etc aren't our ancestors.

[Turul Karom]

Germans butcher one another all the time. Germanic tribes have been their own worst enemies in all of history. WW1 and WW2 are also good examples of this where there was no love at all between Germanic super powers, even the Kaiser of Germany was eager to see Austria fail so he could absorb it into the Empire.

I harbor no ill will against Turkic infighting from the past. Ottoman Empire was a religious based empire with a Caliphate. Anatolian Turkish of today are to bear the burden of the Islamic expansion? With that logic, blame the Arabs that converted them. Nobody is directly responsible for the actions of their ancestors.

[Turul Karom]

“We Turks and you Hungarians are brothers. We tried to perish one another for nothing, us leading Islam by saying İlayi kelimatullah and you leading Christianity by saying Ruhullah. Instead of making such a big mistake, if we would work hand-in hand together, how we would be beneficial to the whole humanity”

[oszkar07]

Germans butcher one another all the time. Germanic tribes have been their own worst enemies in all of history. WW1 and WW2 are also good examples of this where there was no love at all between Germanic super powers, even the Kaiser of Germany was eager to see Austria fail so he could absorb it into the Empire.

I harbor no ill will against Turkic infighting from the past. Ottoman Empire was a religious based empire with a Caliphate. Anatolian Turkish of today are to bear the burden of the Islamic expansion? With that logic, blame the Arabs that converted them. Nobody is directly responsible for the actions of their ancestors.

on the other hand ... Not blaming Turkics or succesors of Ottomans today.

But just imagine what would be todays Hungarian population if not for the Hungarian death toll made by Tatars in 14th centurys and Ottomans in 17th century.