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Is there a topic regarding Ugric vs Turkic debate, as in sense who do you feel is core of your group ? If not somebody should open it.
I would write in Hungarian here as I learned it quite well but I still make too many grammar errors.
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Under the Ottomans, the Romanians (Vlah) were not fully part of the state. Erdel and around were autonomous regions like Crimea Tatars. That's hardly subjugation.
And by using fawls in Islam, the Serbs, Albanians and Greks subjugated the Ottomans after 16th century.
Thus it was Balkan people who invaded Hungary not the Turks. Why should Turks embrace the Islamo-Balkan destruction of Hungary?
Ottoman state returned to Turks only in 19th century. Kılıç Ali Pasha etc aren't our ancestors.
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Germans butcher one another all the time. Germanic tribes have been their own worst enemies in all of history. WW1 and WW2 are also good examples of this where there was no love at all between Germanic super powers, even the Kaiser of Germany was eager to see Austria fail so he could absorb it into the Empire.
I harbor no ill will against Turkic infighting from the past. Ottoman Empire was a religious based empire with a Caliphate. Anatolian Turkish of today are to bear the burden of the Islamic expansion? With that logic, blame the Arabs that converted them. Nobody is directly responsible for the actions of their ancestors.
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“We Turks and you Hungarians are brothers. We tried to perish one another for nothing, us leading Islam by saying İlayi kelimatullah and you leading Christianity by saying Ruhullah. Instead of making such a big mistake, if we would work hand-in hand together, how we would be beneficial to the whole humanity”
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