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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    I never saw a single Mexican result above 95% European, even among people of recent European ancestry there. I'd appreciate if you can PM me some. On the other hand, I can share many Brazilians above 95% European who are mostly colonial or even fully colonial, like this one.

    Recently I posted a colonial Mexican that is heavily European, but he was 90% European at most.

    Okie dokie, i will ask them for their permission first would respond to you within 24th hours on PM also will share you mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiete View Post
    Okie dokie, i will ask them for their permission first would respond to you within 24th hours on PM also will share you mine.
    Sure, I'll be glad to see your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Basically a Portuguese with 3% Amerindian.

    You cannot find such results in other Latin American countries.
    Argentina, Uruguay?
    Interestingly an Injun mixed in somewhere down the line

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    Hmm, so basically, most White Brazilians have Amerindian and SSA admixtures? That's something North Americans wouldn't count as White in their viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    seriously, I don't buy it, race mixing between whites and non-whites is more common here, and I'm talking about current times, not colonial ones.
    In the US mixing between whites and Negroes was basically illegal up until the 1960s. On the other hand, didn't Brazil use to promote racial dilution of blacks and mulattoes as a way of getting rid of them gradually? I may be wrong of course, pardon my possible ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    In the US mixing between whites and Negroes was basically illegal up until the 1960s. On the other hand, didn't Brazil use to promote racial dilution of blacks and mulattoes as a way of getting rid of them gradually? I may be wrong of course, pardon my possible ignorance.
    The Spaniards and the Portuguese think differently than their Anglo-Saxon counterparts when it comes to race and so on. Race mixing back then wasn't something taboo like in the US. I've heard that one of Brazil's greatest poets happened to be a Mulatto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Hmm, so basically, most White Brazilians have Amerindian and SSA admixtures? That's something North Americans wouldn't count as White in their viewpoint.
    Yeah, most have some admixture, usually below 10%. But this person has incredibly low admixture for a Latin American of colonial origins. Looking at GEDmatch she is at most 2-3% Amerindian and 0% SSA, hardly not white enough to White North Americans since even if it isn't common there are some of them scoring up to 10% non-European.
    Most people with similar results in countries like Brazil, Argentina, Cuba and Uruguay have recent European ancestry, they are not fully from the colonial period and that's why these results are impressive. You cannot find easily such results among colonials in other Latin American countries, only in Brazil.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Argentina, Uruguay?
    Interestingly an Injun mixed in somewhere down the line
    Argentina and Uruguay European input is mostly recent/post-independence. In the colonial times most people living in Argentina and Uruguay were balanced Mestizos not much different from Mexicans.

    What makes such results interesting is that they belong to a fully colonial individual, I could post many Brazilians who are 100% or near 100% European it's not difficult to find.

    You can find people over 95% European in Argentina, Uruguay and Cuba, but most of them come from recent migrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post


    I've always said that, Brazil is the only Latin American country with near full or even full European colonial individuals.
    Well, taking into account the massive portuguese migration to Brazil in the XVIII that´s not difficult, most colonials barely stayed 1-2 generations before the independance.

    Chile has also abundant pure colonials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunnos View Post
    She is 95 years old, she is probably a great grandmother by now, probably her grandsons and great grandsons are already mixed. Unless she kept her "elite" status and wanted to mantain the blood intact.

    I wonder if some of these "elite" families are not a bit inbred, assuming that the vast majority of Portuguese colonials mixed with africans and natives, in order to mantain and keep the European blood pure or relatively pure they would have to select just a few families who they could breed with.
    In Colombia, where there´s a good number of white colonials (+85% euro), but there are scarce pure ones (+95%), the process of making the "criollos" was basically miscegenation superposing miscegenation: basically new arrivals of spanish men mixed with the previously yet mixed colombian women, the process is 1st generation: mestizo offspring, 2nd generation: offspring castizo, 3rd generation: offspring criollo, and a further 4rd mixing would create a pure white.

    This process is specially strong in Medellin-Antioquia, where there was barely post-colonial migration and has a good amount of whites.

    This also happened post-independance in Argentina-Uruguay, where there was also migration of women, but the proportion was 3-4 men for each woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Most white Brazilians from the traditional elite are not racist, but classicist, they would have no problem mating with rich Japanese, mulatos(as), castizo(as)...
    Real purity here is reduced to poor colonos from the countryside.
    It's like when people on the Internet say that white Latinos, because of their minority status, are more racialist regarding relationships when compared their American counterparts... seriously, I don't buy it, race mixing between whites and non-whites is more common here, and I'm talking about current times, not colonial ones.
    That´s the case in Brazil, also in countries with bigger whites populations as Argentina, Uruguay and a lesser extent Cuba (there was more segregation here), even in Venezuela where the european migration is recent, but in countries with long-time and reduced (elite only) white populations, as Mexico, Dominican Republic, Central American republics, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile or Bolivia, the miscegenation between whites and non-whites is basically 0, they could mix with castizos or octoroons as much.

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