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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Stanhope View Post
    Not everything in life is about us Greeks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Stanhope View Post
    This is nonsense. These were Turks because the spoke Turkish, not Greek. If they were Turkicised Greeks, like the Cretan Muslims, they would have spoken Greek instead.
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    When did the Ottomans force people to become Turks? If that were the case, there wouldn't have survived any remnants of the Greek language or Christianity after 500 years of their rule. The truth is, as long as the tzimides (infidels) paid their taxes, the Ottomans couldn't care less what they did, or how they lived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    Need extensive genetic test on Dodecanese people.If they're over 1% East Asian&Siberian, that means they're originally Turk, if they claim they're Turkish Dodecanese but if they lack of East Asian&Siberian admix, that means they're Turkified Greeks.
    They are Turks
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Well, if they assume and believe they're Turks and they're Muslims as well so there's nothing to discuss about this case.I trust genetics more than language and religion so i support genetic tests.This is my view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    Well, if they assume and believe they're Turks and they're Muslims as well so there's nothing to discuss about this case.I trust genetics more than language and religion so i support genetic tests.This is my view.
    And i replied to your view, they are Turks.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    25 million Kurds in Turkey don't have access to Kurdish language education (unless privately paid). Turks in Greece don't deserve shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    And i replied to your view, they are Turks.
    I clearly wrote about my view on genetics so If you replied my view then where the genetic results of Dodecanese Turks are?Do you have any results to share with me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    I clearly wrote about my view on genetics so If you replied my view then where the genetic results of Dodecanese Turks are?Do you have any results to share with me?
    It is in my archive but i'm not with my laptop now. I have two different samples one with ~2% East Eurasian and the other was something like 4.5%. Also, they shift to the Anatolians but clearly show native admixture as well.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    You can post here whenever you're available on pc.
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