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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Thats what religion teachings does..it was likely brutal in the beginning but natives were in constant rebellion and ottomans were warring losing men left and right. thats what happened to byzantines as well it was too big and warred on too many different fronts.. but done well to keep an empire going for 1200 years.... Turks are probably our only real proper historical adversary after Persians and give them credit for running an empire for 450 years. Albeit they were hated by Christians natives that were in constant rebellion. But still - credit where credit is due
    It must've been brutal. The Romans easily Latinized most of their won territories (except for Dacians. I read that the Latinization was brutal since they fought tooth and nail against them. Gauls were probably brutally Latinized as well I assume) probably due to the smaller number of natives but for millions of Anatolians to become Turkic speakers in a generation or two is just odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    The first thing that pops in my mind is Hittites
    Hittites/Nesili were the true Yamnayan Indo-European people.

    Actually, they get mixed with local Hatti people when they entered to Anatolia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    Hittites/Nesili were the true Yamnayan Indo-European people.

    Actually, they get mixed with local Hatti people when they entered to Anatolia.
    Yeah that's why I said this;

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    the land of Neolithic farmers and true Indo-Europeans since Asia Minor was always the crossroads of Europe and Asia
    but there will always be people trying to disprove it via Dna etc. It's whiter to be from Ukraine I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    It must've been brutal. The Romans easily Latinized most of their won territories (except for Dacians. I read that the Latinization was brutal since they fought tooth and nail against them) probably due to the smaller number of natives but for millions of Anatolians to become Turkic speakers in a generation or two is just odd.
    Adopting new faith, new names, new riches, promises.. alot of it was likely cultural as well as Byzantine Anatolia likely had plenty Turkic type people or affiliated Turks like Khazars and other people like that. Turks didnt really do anything from 1071 to 1300 and Byzantines had treaty as warring on too many different front instead of kicking them out. Left them to fortify and grow. By that time Byzantines were in full civil war - game of thrones eat your heart out type wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    It must've been brutal. The Romans easily Latinized most of their won territories (except for Dacians. I read that the Latinization was brutal since they fought tooth and nail against them. Gauls were probably brutally Latinized as well I assume) probably due to the smaller number of natives but for millions of Anatolians to become Turkic speakers in a generation or two is just odd.
    Finances caused this probably. Lower taxes made them Muslims gradually. Also, Byzantium was an empire, it was decaying when we arrived due to wars with Sassanids. Perhaps people wanted to convert winning side and hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    It must've been brutal. The Romans easily Latinized most of their won territories (except for Dacians. I read that the Latinization was brutal since they fought tooth and nail against them. Gauls were probably brutally Latinized as well I assume)
    Roman wars with Illyrians were far more brutal and longer than their wars with Dacians.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_Wars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    the turkicization of Anatolia was probably brutal I assume? i dont see how a small number of turks could turkicize such a large number of people. That always baffled me.
    Battle of Manzikert in 1071 is what got the dominos falling. You can thank the Byzantine leadership for that clusterfuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Battle of Manzikert in 1071 is what got the dominos falling. You can thank the Byzantine leadership for that clusterfuck.
    and in a few hundred years later they became a powerhouse encompassing millions of Anatolians. Why?? that is my question

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Battle of Manzikert in 1071 is what got the dominos falling. You can thank the Byzantine leadership for that clusterfuck.
    Yep, we had no intention of invading and settling Anatolia actually. It was pure opportunism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Battle of Manzikert in 1071 is what got the dominos falling. You can thank the Byzantine leadership for that clusterfuck.
    Uh? The Franks came and abandoned the Byzantines because they got scared. Historical fact.
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