Is Empathy a Mental Disorder?

[Dna8]

Member, Mortimer, has a frost upon his signature (and it is good stuff, my friends).

Dna8

[Celestia]

I never had one, can thank Plato and Marcus Aurelius for that. Empathy is something you need to learn to use, even if you have a great affinity for it.

And to think I minored in humanities.
I’ll have to reread up on Plato. It’s been some time lol.
I’ve gotten a lot better at standing my ground over the years, that’s for sure.

[Daos777]

Not much to do really. The best solution would be to have them identified: like to add a special remark on their IDs for example. Once you have a disturbed individual identified, they are basically neutralized.

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Your last sentence is confusing do you mean we identify them and neutralize them or do you mean because we can track them they are basically neutralized because we can somehow develop a system that alerts anyone in the immediate vicinity of this individual to be careful.

Also what I’m asking is do we support them and feed them or do we let nature take its course.

What is lost or gained in either of those decisions. Morally, mentally, or physically.

[Dna8]

[Sarmatian]

Only when people lived in very small tribes the size of a large extended family.

Bigger tribes had strict hierarchal structures that really did not support the bottom dwellers who had brutal hard labored lives and were only allowed to exist because they provided that for their tribe.

Empathy is always associated with lower intelligence and class among a certain population. Those at the top do not have such tendencies.

It can then be concluded that this is the product of domestication of human beings. This along with breeding for lower T and aggressiveness. Which makes peasants(animals of labor) easy to control because they won’t rebel.

Humanity is not supposed to live on this level of comfort. We are supposed to live in primitive perpetual warfare. So only the physically strongest and most aggressive survive. Technology has ruined this.


Given all that I know I’m glad that empathy is on its way out of humanity’s gene pool. And it will be fun watching what will be the consequences.

Empathy is crucial trait in females if they want to be functional mothers at first years of their kids' lives. The ability to feel for the little human who can't explain his discomfort intelligibly is the key to that human's survival. Without it most of us wouldn't have made it past 1 year of age.

The strict hierarchy in bigger tribes is nonsense. If we look at the societies living in harshest conditions we can observe increased empathy. Every member of society is important no matter how low they stand. Because you never know what disaster will hit next and what kind of talent will be needed to get everyone through. So you need to maintain the maximum variety of personalities within tribe, even those that seems to be useless at the moment.

All strictly determined hierarchies developed in favorable climatic conditions where social threats outweighed natural.

[Loki]

In some cases no. Why does it seem like selfish people with very little empathy seem to thrive financially and be at the top power positions? That’s not an accident something is going on there.

How do you know it is statistically significant what you subjectively observed? And is being in a "top power position" all-important to you? You seem to have very shallow ideals and values.

[Nazarene]

Can you list at least three types of people who don’t deserve empathy?

Murderers
Rapists
Thieves

[Loki]

Can you list at least three types of people who don’t deserve empathy?

I can list at least one type of person who doesn't deserve having an account on this forum -- namely, individuals who display a complete lack of empathy and humanity towards others. I normally don't have much patience for such.

[Incal]

Your last sentence is confusing do you mean we identify them and neutralize them or do you mean because we can track them they are basically neutralized because we can somehow develop a system that alerts anyone in the immediate vicinity of this individual to be careful.

Also what I’m asking is do we support them and feed them or do we let nature take its course.

What is lost or gained in either of those decisions. Morally, mentally, or physically.

What I meant is that if you already know somebody is a psychopath for example, there is no way you can fall for their tricks anymore (unless you don't want to see the truth, and those are their worst victims).

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[Loki]

That’s what I’m saying man. I wish the world could work in a different way. But so far every conventional ideas of morality I’ve been taught since birth has been little more than Disney world bullshit. People only respect intimidation and violence. Violence at the end of the day is what solves anything. And breeding these warrior genes from your people is sending them on a path towards something worse than slavery.

Don't glorify violence on my forum. I've read a few of your posts and you are literally on the verge of being kicked out.