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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    Hmmm, I may have mis-interpreted what you were conveying. If what you are describing is that special magic, a sequence of chords and lyrics perhaps, or a powerful scene in film for example. And, in that moment, the song, the poem, or film inexplicably elicits tears or euphoria, or both. Oh yeah man, I live for that.
    It's related to why I seem to be moved by Symbolists (in the context of literature):

    Britannica:

    The Symbolists wished to liberate poetry from its expository functions and its formalized oratory in order to describe instead the fleeting, immediate sensations of man’s inner life and experience. They attempted to evoke the ineffable intuitions and sense impressions of man’s inner life and to communicate the underlying mystery of existence through a free and highly personal use of metaphors and images that, though lacking in precise meaning, would nevertheless convey the state of the poet’s mind and hint at the “dark and confused unity” of an inexpressible reality.

    **

    Take, for instance, these two poems by Trakl (my second fav. poet):

    In Venice

    Silence in the rented room.
    The candlestick flickers with silver light
    Before the singing breath
    Of the lonely man;
    Enchanted rosecloud.
    Black swarms of flies
    Darken the stony space,
    And the head of the man who has no home
    Is numb from the agony
    Of the golden day.
    The motionless sea grows dark.
    Star and black voyages
    Vanished on the canal.
    Child, your sickly smile
    Followed me softly in my sleep.

    --

    De Profundis

    It is a stubble field, where a black rain is falling.
    It is a brown tree, that stands alone.
    It is a hissing wind, that encircles empty houses.
    How melancholy the evening is.
    A while later,
    The soft orphan garners the sparse ears of corn.
    Her eyes graze, round and golden, in the twilight
    And her womb awaits the heavenly bridegroom.
    On the way home
    The shepherd found the sweet body
    Decayed in a bush of thorns.
    I am a shadow far from darkening villages.
    I drank the silence of God
    Out of the stream in the trees.
    Cold metal walks on my forehead.
    Spiders search for my heart.
    It is a light that goes out in my mouth.
    At night, I found myself on a pasture,
    Covered with rubbish and the dust of stars.
    In a hazel thicket
    Angels of crystal rang out once more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dna8 View Post
    It's related to why I seem to be moved by Symbolists (in the context of literature):

    Britannica:

    The Symbolists wished to liberate poetry from its expository functions and its formalized oratory in order to describe instead the fleeting, immediate sensations of man’s inner life and experience. They attempted to evoke the ineffable intuitions and sense impressions of man’s inner life and to communicate the underlying mystery of existence through a free and highly personal use of metaphors and images that, though lacking in precise meaning, would nevertheless convey the state of the poet’s mind and hint at the “dark and confused unity” of an inexpressible reality.

    **

    Take, for instance, these two poems by Trakl (my second fav. poet):

    In Venice

    Silence in the rented room.
    The candlestick flickers with silver light
    Before the singing breath
    Of the lonely man;
    Enchanted rosecloud.
    Black swarms of flies
    Darken the stony space,
    And the head of the man who has no home
    Is numb from the agony
    Of the golden day.
    The motionless sea grows dark.
    Star and black voyages
    Vanished on the canal.
    Child, your sickly smile
    Followed me softly in my sleep.

    --

    De Profundis

    It is a stubble field, where a black rain is falling.
    It is a brown tree, that stands alone.
    It is a hissing wind, that encircles empty houses.
    How melancholy the evening is.
    A while later,
    The soft orphan garners the sparse ears of corn.
    Her eyes graze, round and golden, in the twilight
    And her womb awaits the heavenly bridegroom.
    On the way home
    The shepherd found the sweet body
    Decayed in a bush of thorns.
    I am a shadow far from darkening villages.
    I drank the silence of God
    Out of the stream in the trees.
    Cold metal walks on my forehead.
    Spiders search for my heart.
    It is a light that goes out in my mouth.
    At night, I found myself on a pasture,
    Covered with rubbish and the dust of stars.
    In a hazel thicket
    Angels of crystal rang out once more.
    Oh yes, I did indeed misinterpret your original post.

    Thank you for helping me to understand, and for sharing and discussing this feeling that you, and also I, experience.

    And thank you for Trakl, the second poem in particular moved me. I drank the silence of God - the poem heightened and transcended at that moment, for me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    Oh yes, I did indeed misinterpret your original post.

    Thank you for helping me to understand, and for sharing and discussing this feeling that you, and also I, experience.

    And thank you for Trakl, the second poem in particular moved me. I drank the silence of God - the poem heightened and transcended at that moment, for me..


    The moments of transcendence for me, regarding the Trakl poems:

    Child, your sickly smile
    Followed me softly in my sleep.

    &

    I am a shadow far from darkening villages.
    I drank the silence of God
    Out of the stream in the trees.
    Cold metal walks on my forehead.
    Spiders search for my heart.
    It is a light that goes out in my mouth.

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