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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    May be a Bronze Age arrival into Europe, in which case your ancestor is some kinda Semite or Ancient Egyptian.

    I thought it would be more than a hamita
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    In the case of YDNA if it was a Jewish or Arab ancestor, I do not know how it could be that the thing is only in 4% of NA, which I can not know if it is by YDNA mitochondrial DNA. And in the case that it had been a Jew, it would be 0% sephardic or Askenazi. Nor have we considered the possibility of a Carthaginian.





    Last edited by Gallop; 10-24-2019 at 06:35 PM.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    In the case of YDNA if it was a Jewish or Arab ancestor, I do not know how it could be that the thing is only in 4% of NA, which I can not know if it is by YDNA mitochondrial DNA. And in the case that it had been a Jew, it would be 0% sephardic or Askenazi. Nor have we considered the possibility of a Carthaginian.

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    I said you may descend from an early Semite - that covers Carthaginians. Also, he would've lived so along ago, you shouldn't expect to find an autosomal trace of him.
    Last edited by Pine; 10-25-2019 at 04:44 PM.

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    Yfull gave me E-BY7449_E-BY7449 * _ YF66572
    I'm still with the Dutchman.






    This map would be valid for me then?
    Last edited by Gallop; 11-09-2019 at 02:22 AM.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    BIG Y 700

    In this picture downstream, upstream. Needless to say, I am the Spanish flag. They are all European countries less Jamaica than good was an English colony and you can expect anything; before it was Spanish by the way.

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    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Yfull gave me E-BY7449_E-BY7449 * _ YF66572
    I'm still with the Dutchman.






    This map would be valid for me then?
    No, the map is invalid for you - it's based on the overwhelming amount of Ashkenazi samples. That's why the final node is in Eastern Europe. You can see them on that YFull snapshot under E-BY7517.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    No, the map is invalid for you - it's based on the overwhelming amount of Ashkenazi samples. That's why the final node is in Eastern Europe. You can see them on that YFull snapshot under E-BY7517.
    Thanks for answering!

    So what conclusion do you draw? You can speak clearly without blunt.
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    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Thanks for answering!

    So what conclusion do you draw? You can speak clearly without blunt.
    The fact that you're at the basal node doesn't help much in determining the ethnicity of your ancestor. I suppose it could suggest that your ancestor couldn't have then lived too far away from Spain - but Spain is right on the Mediterranean - everything is a swim away. We can eliminate Ashkenazi, but that was unlikely to begin with. Ask on Anthrogenica, many there understand this stuff much better. Almost everything I read here is wrong. An early split from other MENAs seems most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    The fact that you're at the basal node doesn't help much in determining the ethnicity of your ancestor. I suppose it could suggest that your ancestor couldn't have then lived too far away from Spain - but Spain is right on the Mediterranean - everything is a swim away. We can eliminate Ashkenazi, but that was unlikely to begin with. Ask on Anthrogenica, many there understand this stuff much better. Almost everything I read here is wrong. An early split from other MENAs seems most likely.
    Early separation refers to an era like Neolithic, bronze, iron. Do you see more likely that a Carthaginian or Roman imperial era for example?
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Early separation refers to an era like Neolithic, bronze, iron. Do you see more likely that a Carthaginian or Roman imperial era for example?
    I'm guessing prior to Carthaginians and possibly Late Neolithic. Really, ask on Anthrogenica.

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