View Poll Results: Which one of these two linguistic branches is closer to Indo-European languages?

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  • Uralic

    9 81.82%
  • Semitic

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    even the indo-european languages don't sound alike at all. it's not the sound or the vocabulary who puts them in the same branch

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutabor View Post
    Uralic languages sound like Balto-Slavic languages.
    Yeah, at least languages like Udmurt and Erzya sound like Russian to me. They have been prosodically influenced by Russian, and they are full of fricative sounds like /ʃ/ which do not exist in Finnish.

    However Finnish is very different. By European standards, it has a very limited inventory of consonant phonemes. If recent loan words are excluded, it has only 13 consonant phonemes, compared to 24 in English (where the precise number of phonemes of course depends on various factors). These English phonemes are not used in native Finnish words: /b/, /f/, /ɡ/, /w/, /z/, /ʃ/, /tʃ/, /ʒ/, /dʒ/, /θ/, and /ð/.

    Even /d/ (voiced alveolar stop) did not exist in most Finnish dialects until recently. In the orthography of the standard Finnish dialect, in native Finnish words, the letter g only appears in the digraph "ng", where it is pronounced as /ŋ/ (velar nasal).

    The standard Finnish dialect is an artificial dialect which was constructed in the 1800s. It has prosodical similarities to Swedish, because its earliest speakers came from the educated classes, who until that point had been Swedish-speaking. On the other hand, Western Finnish dialects have prosodical similarities with Estonian.

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    Uralic





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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    Uralic




    Saami languages and the languages of the Volga-Ural region are not Finnic. Finnic is a synonym of Baltic Finnic.

    The Finnic (Fennic) or Balto-Finnic (Balto-Fennic, Baltic Finnic)[a] languages are a branch of the Uralic language family spoken around the Baltic Sea by Finnic peoples, mainly in Finland and Estonia, by about 7 million people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnic_languages

    Also there is no year 0 in the Julian or Gregorian calendar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    Saami languages and the languages of the Volga-Ural region are not Finnic. Finnic is a synonym of Baltic Finnic.

    The Finnic (Fennic) or Balto-Finnic (Balto-Fennic, Baltic Finnic)[a] languages are a branch of the Uralic language family spoken around the Baltic Sea by Finnic peoples, mainly in Finland and Estonia, by about 7 million people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnic_languages

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    yup, but they're much closer to European languages (*not "Indo-European") than to Hamito-Semitic languages, aren't they?

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    double post

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    Semitic sounds really foreign and other worldy to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraftwerk View Post
    Everyone will come up with their agenda.
    Right, linguists are a bunch of opportunists, who build a new theory every third decade, fit in everything that supports it and disregard the rest .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Semitic sounds really foreign and other worldy to me
    Yup. The same's true for other Afro-Asiatic branches and languages like Egyptian(Coptic), Berber, Chadic, Omotic, and Cushtic.

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