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Thread: Which European mythology do you find most interesting?

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    Germanic.

    Anglo-Saxon Wodenism specifically. If anyone has any resources or books that could give me a good insight or understanding I'd greatly appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domias View Post
    Right, and Gaulish Ogmios was Irish Ogma. But Druid class present in Britain, Ireland and Gauls was absent in Iberian Peninsula, I believe, but I'ill verify that soon.
    There are some Gaulish legends very specific to certain areas like the foundation of Lug Dunon (Lyon)
    The druids originated in Britian and Ireland but spread to gaul by the time Caesar did his conquest, apparently they had a sacred forest in the lands of the Carnutii and would often be the ones controlling inter tribal affairs like war and the like, even going so far as to make it sacrilege for two gaulish tribes to war with one another without the permission of the druids, who seemed to have some kind of internal organization, like the catholic church (at least in Gaul)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    The druids originated in Britian and Ireland but spread to gaul by the time Caesar did his conquest, apparently they had a sacred forest in the lands of the Carnutii and would often be the ones controlling inter tribal affairs like war and the like, even going so far as to make it sacrilege for two gaulish tribes to war with one another without the permission of the druids, who seemed to have some kind of internal organization, like the catholic church (at least in Gaul)...
    In addition to the British Isles where other parts of Europe had Celtic druids?

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    Greek/Roman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    The druids originated in Britian and Ireland but spread to gaul by the time Caesar did his conquest, apparently they had a sacred forest in the lands of the Carnutii and would often be the ones controlling inter tribal affairs like war and the like, even going so far as to make it sacrilege for two gaulish tribes to war with one another without the permission of the druids, who seemed to have some kind of internal organization, like the catholic church (at least in Gaul)...
    Greeks sources spoke about gálata and keltois , and Roman sources spoke always as far as I know about druids in Gaul.

    Maybe druidic phenomenom started in British Islands, but I don´t know why you say it with so firmly.

    During medieval ages, sources specially in Ireland start speaking about Druids again, as something "mythologycal" or from ancient and past times, but druids have dissapear probably during the II century anywhere.

    So basically all we can know about druidic religion or phenomenom, comes from Romans firsthand (quite manipulated for political purposes many times), and after this is probably all invented.

    Is something similar to what happens with the Celts, that sources are very unespecific describing them, and that term "keltoi" was created to describe many different people and cultures, related, but differents.

    I am not any expert, but my overall impression is that most of the things attributed to the ancient Celts and their culture, comes from a romantic vision, in many cases manipulated or directly invented by a nationalist sentiment, and that if an ancient Celtic traveled back in time and was shown what is considered Celtic culture today, he would not recognize anything as his own.

    Anyway, I don´t know if it´s avalaible the autosomal result of this individual, found in Kent, could be interesting compare it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_Warrior

    Ir´s not entirely certain that he could be a druid, but, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Greeks sources spoke about gálata and keltois , and Roman sources spoke always as far as I know about druids in Gaul.

    Maybe druidic phenomenom started in British Islands, but I don´t know why you say it with so firmly.

    During medieval ages, sources specially in Ireland start speaking about Druids again, as something "mythologycal" or from ancient and past times, but druids have dissapear probably during the II century anywhere.

    So basically all we can know about druidic religion or phenomenom, comes from Romans firsthand (quite manipulated for political purposes many times), and after this is probably all invented.

    Is something similar to what happens with the Celts, that sources are very unespecific describing them, and that term "keltoi" was created to describe many different people and cultures, related, but differents.

    I am not any expert, but my overall impression is that most of the things attributed to the ancient Celts and their culture, comes from a romantic vision, in many cases manipulated or directly invented by a nationalist sentiment, and that if an ancient Celtic traveled back in time and was shown what is considered Celtic culture today, he would not recognize anything as his own.

    Anyway, I don´t know if it´s avalaible the autosomal result of this individual, found in Kent, could be interesting compare it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_Warrior

    Ir´s not entirely certain that he could be a druid, but, who knows.
    I think part of the reason I said it like that is that the Druids had a very firm holding in the british isles, being a part of every culture there until the romans, and having their sacred island at Ynys Mona in Wales, the druids were a big part of early and pre christian ireland, suggesting they had been there sense the late bronze age, do to the extreme isolation of Ireland between the collapse of the atlantic bronze age culture until the post roman, irish invasions of Scotland and Wales (that where obviously more successful in Scotland).
    Also though most of what you say about out view of celtic culture being inaccurate is right to some extant (especially with the ideas of a the kilt, claymore, and bagpipe being old celtic things, they're relatively new) there is still somethings we do know and can know, especially if we look at ancient sources such as the Irish Book of Invasions, the annal of the four masters, and the old welsh text, plus archaeology has proven that though it may not have had the same family distinguishing ideas that it does today, plaid clothing designs was there in ancient times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    In addition to the British Isles where other parts of Europe had Celtic druids?
    probably where ancient gaul was, which is to say, most of France, Belgium, Switzerland, and to an extant, Northern Italy and Germany west of the Rhine river

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    probably where ancient gaul was, which is to say, most of France, Belgium, Switzerland, and to an extant, Northern Italy and Germany west of the Rhine river
    All Central Europe?

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    I find all of it equally interesting, I study all world mythologies and religions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    All Central Europe?
    Well Celtic languages, yes. Druids, maybe, depends on where Druidism originated, I’ve heard some good arguments that started in Britain but made its way to at least western Gaul or modern France

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