View Poll Results: Was Serbian behaviour in the 1990's really much worse than Israeli behaviour from 1948 up to now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    So ? Why don't you apply same to the Ustaše for example, or SS ? They were bastards, but so were their enemies. Do you like it ?
    I bet you don't.

    In those wars Serbia was agressor. And when one side is agressor it deserves to be held as no.1 problem.
    Serbia was the primary aggressor, but that isn't the same thing as saying it was the only aggressor and the others acted entirely in self-defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    That is croatian propaganda that serbs are like Hitler. Which is not true at all. The serbs didnt want to exterminate croatians or even put them under subjugation. The serbs fought for land just like everyone else during that process they made war with the others and killed them. I met many croats, hungarians, albanians under Milosevic in Serbia married to serbian women and doing their business as usuall, no genocide, concentration camp etc. Sorry.
    There were concentration camps in Vojvodina where Croatian POWs were taken after battle of Vukovar.
    In Bosnia Bosnian Serbs held rape camps for captive muslim women.

    During war in Bosnia Bosniaks had to wear marking on their sleeve in some towns under Serb control, does that ring a bell ?

    Without accepting your guilt there will be no reconcilliation and trying to make other side seem equally guilty as yours will not help.
    I did not search for excuses when it came to genocide of Serbs during ww2 by my people, I recognize it and it's our responsibility.
    I didn't try to make it less bad by comparing with less numerous genocide carried out by Serbs during that same war (eastern Bosnia vs muslims).

    In WW2 we were bad guys. And in last one you were, not us, not bosniaks, but you.
    I consider you Serb because you are spreading their propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    There were concentration camps in Vojvodina where Croatian POWs were taken after battle of Vukovar.
    In Bosnia Bosnian Serbs held rape camps for captive muslim women.

    During war in Bosnia Bosniaks had to wear marking on their sleeve in some towns under Serb control, does that ring a bell ?

    Without accepting your guilt there will be no reconcilliation and trying to make other side seem equally guilty as yours will not help.
    I did not search for excuses when it came to genocide of Serbs during ww2 by my people, I recognize it and it's our responsibility.
    I didn't try to make it less bad by comparing with less numerous genocide carried out by Serbs during that same war (eastern Bosnia vs muslims).

    In WW2 we were bad guys. And in last one you were, not us, not bosniaks, but you.
    I consider you Serb because you are spreading their propaganda.
    I didnt noticed that but maybe it is true. But I know JNA soldier of that time who was in a ustasha concentration camp and they tortured him. So imprisoned POWs probably serbs did that too. But I didnt noticed in Serbia genocidal laws and such like Hitler did. If Serbs were truly like Hitler, I wouldnt exist too as Im not a pure ethnic serb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Serbia was the primary aggressor, but that isn't the same thing as saying it was the only aggressor and the others acted entirely in self-defence.
    What you are trying to do is split the guilt equally among all sides for 90s war but you are not doing it for WW2. Or any war, for that matter.
    Why are some people here eager to defend Serb crimes in 90s but not eager to defend Croat crimes from 40s?

    Oh, I know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I didnt noticed that but maybe it is true. But I know JNA soldier of that time who was in a ustasha concentration camp and they tortured him. So imprisoned POWs probably serbs did that too. But I didnt noticed in Serbia genocidal laws and such like Hitler did. If Serbs were truly like Hitler, I wouldnt exist too as Im not a pure ethnic serb.
    You haven't heard of Trnopolje?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    You haven't heard of Trnopolje?
    No what is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I didnt noticed that but maybe it is true. But I know JNA soldier of that time who was in a ustasha concentration camp and they tortured him. So imprisoned POWs probably serbs did that too. But I didnt noticed in Serbia genocidal laws and such like Hitler did. If Serbs were truly like Hitler, I wouldnt exist too as Im not a pure ethnic serb.
    Wife of Ante Pavelić had Jewish roots as did one of most notorious Ustaše Dido Kvaternik.
    They loved Jews very much indeeed....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    No what is that?
    It was a major concentration camp ran by Serbs in Bosnia, where lots of men were starved, beaten and in some cases killed.

    EDIT: Omarska was the other major one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    It was a major concentration camp ran by Serbs in Bosnia, where lots of men were starved, beaten and in some cases killed.
    I see. Yeah thats terrible. But I think it is not like Nazi concentration camps a system of many concentration camps created for quick extermination of all bosniaks. But it is still savage. There is Srebrenica but there is also Kravica. I heard a serb saying "Noz Zica Srebrenica" and a Bosniak said "Noz Zica Kravica". The Bosniaks and also many foreign terrorists arabs and such and iranians raped serbian women. I heard of stories on TV serbian TV of serbian rape victims in bosniak prison camps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    In my honest opinion the serbs did nothing what croats or muslims or albanians didnt do. And they all had the same goals, nationalism and ethnostates. Seselj was under Tito in Goli Otak though, that is a prison camp for fascsists later he was in the Milosevic government and they wanted to realise a greater serbia thats true and they commited genocide, war crimes etc. but the croats are also fascist. I remember when the war started all the ustashe turned up with Ante Pavelic pictures etc. The west claimed they are freedom fighters but do you know who was Ante Pavelic?
    No, it was a camp for those labeled as 'politically incorrect'. In those times it usually meant anyone who was harbouring sympathies towards the Soviet Union after the split between Tito and Stalin.

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