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    Exclamation House overwhelmingly approves resolution recognizing Armenian genocide



    WASHINGTON — The House on Tuesday overwhelmingly reaffirmed that the U.S. government should recognize the century-old killings of 1.5 million Armenians as a genocide.
    The resolution, which is not legally binding, marked the first time in 35 years that either chamber of Congress labeled as genocide the mass killings of Armenians at the hands of the Ottoman Empire, which is now modern-day Turkey, between 1915 and 1923 . A similar House resolution passed in 1984.

    Support for the measure — particularly among some Democrats — grew after Turkey’s recent incursion against the Kurds along the Turkish-Syrian border, which killed about 200 Kurds and displaced more than 200,000.

    “Given that the Turks are once again involved in ethnic cleansing the population — this time the Kurds who live along the Turkish-Syrian border — it seemed all the more appropriate to bring up a resolution about the Ottoman efforts to annihilate an entire people in the Armenian genocide,” said resolution sponsor Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank).

    The vote on the bipartisan resolution came on the heels of House passage of economic sanctions against Turkey.

    Turkey crossed the border on Oct. 9 and began attacks across a broad swath of northern Syria following President Trump’s announcement that U.S. forces would withdraw from the area. The United States had previously allied with Syrian Kurdish forces against Islamic State militants. The withdrawal drew swift condemnation from both Democrats and Republicans.

    More than 40 states, including California, and several countries have recognized the genocide. But the Turkish government has refused to acknowledge it. And the U.S. government has stopped short of recognizing it by calling the deaths an “atrocity.”

    The Turkish government acknowledges that the killings occurred but rejects the use of the term “genocide” to describe it, saying other countries should not pass legislation judging another country’s history.

    Schiff, who represents many of the estimated 200,000 Armenians living in Los Angeles County, has pushed the government for decades to recognize the genocide but hasn’t been able to overcome opposition from the Turkish government, a NATO ally.

    Although there are currently no plans to bring the companion resolution up for a vote in the Senate, Schiff said the 405-11 bipartisan vote sent a strong message. “The Turkish lobby has few friends and allies anymore,” Schiff said.

    Some lawmakers, including Rep. Michael Burgess (R-Texas) questioned why the House was taking time to debate a nonbinding resolution dealing with atrocities committed 100 years ago when Congress had a lot left to accomplish in scant days before the end of the year, including preventing the government from shutting down when its spending authority expires Nov. 21.

    “It remains unclear why we are urgently considering this resolution,” he said.

    But longtime supporter of the effort Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Northridge) said it was important for the United States to take a stance, even so long after the fact.

    “It is critical that we counteract Turkey’s genocide denial because genocide denial is the last act of a genocide,” Sherman said. “First, you obliterate a people, then you seek to obliterate their memory, and finally you seek to obliterate the memory of the obliteration.”

    Southern California is home to the largest Armenian community outside of Armenia, and each spring, thousands march on a day of remembrance.

    -Sarah D. Wire

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...enian-genocide

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    If we've already recognized it, why are we still wasting time talking about stuff from 100 years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    If we've already recognized it, why are we still wasting time talking about stuff from 100 years ago?
    Yes, we need actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Yes, we need actions.
    What actions and from who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    What actions and from who?
    Reparations, and returning of all Armenian properties back to it's rightful owners; from the government of Turkey which is the successor of the state of Ottoman Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Reparations, and returning of all Armenian properties back to it's rightful owners; from the government of Turkey which is the successor of the state of Ottoman Empire.
    That's not a problem of the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    If we've already recognized it, why are we still wasting time talking about stuff from 100 years ago?
    US haven't officially recognized the Armenian Genocide yet, almost all of the states did though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Reparations, and returning of all Armenian properties back to it's rightful owners; from the government of Turkey which is the successor of the state of Ottoman Empire.
    Reparations to what individuals though? anyone directly affected by the genocide is dead.... And Giving reparations to family members of people reeks of the type of logic that many African Americans have in regards to Slavery...

    Obviously the genocide was abhorrent, but any appropriate response by the Turks could only come in the form of words and sympathies - where they would have to at least acknowledge that the genocide happened and then at least apologize for it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Reparations, and returning of all Armenian properties back to it's rightful owners; from the government of Turkey which is the successor of the state of Ottoman Empire.
    You won't get a dime nor a pebble so keep dreaming. If anything you are the ones that stand to loose land, you can't keep karabağ occupied for ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Reparations to what individuals though? anyone directly affected by the genocide is dead.... And Giving reparations to family members of people reeks of the type of logic that many African Americans have in regards to Slavery...

    Obviously the genocide was abhorrent, but any appropriate response by the Turks could only come in the form of words and sympathies - where they would have to at least acknowledge that the genocide happened and then at least apologize for it...
    How do you think the Muslim rich class was created in Turkey? Muslim didn't know anything about artisanship or trading, while Christians were busy with trying saving their life, sneaky moslems seized their propertites, and factories.

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