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    According to Imre's model my Hungarian side looks balanced between Slavic and Native Balkan, with some additional Western input.

    Target: MrG
    Distance: 2.1526% / 2.15261656
    55.0 France_IA_BES1248
    23.8 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    21.2 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial

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    It's also overrated in Romanians, esp. from Transylvania

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    Here are the populations from Imre's model (for use with the Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 calculator):

    France_IA_BES1248,50.85,23.52,14.17,4.41,1.84,0,1. 02,0.85,0.65,1.93,0,0,0.76
    AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_,30.33,47 .37,11.04,4.58,2.63,0.68,0.49,0.00,1.56,0.89,0.00, 0.42,0.00
    R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21.47,16. 31,31.17,4.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,1.31,0.53,0.15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    It's also overrated in Romanians, esp. from Transylvania
    True. Transylvania is genetically Balkan.

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    Stears - quite mixed

    Target: Stears
    Distance: 0.1850% / 0.00185012

    41.8 Balto-Slavic
    24.8 Old_Balkan
    13.6 Near_Eastern
    11.6 Uralic
    3.6 Germanic
    2.4 North_Caucasian
    2.2 Mongoloid

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    Start by defining Slav first, are there any results corresponding to proto-Slavs yet?

    Then take IBD shares and stop the sophism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    It's also overrated in Romanians, esp. from Transylvania
    what do you get when you use these coordinates in k13?

    France_IA_BES1248,50.85,23.52,14.17,4.41,1.84,0,1. 02,0.85,0.65,1.93,0,0,0.76
    AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_,30.33,47 .37,11.04,4.58,2.63,0.68,0.49,0.00,1.56,0.89,0.00, 0.42,0.00
    R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21.47,16. 31,31.17,4.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,1.31,0.53,0.15

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17571imre View Post
    what do you get when you use these coordinates in k13?

    France_IA_BES1248,50.85,23.52,14.17,4.41,1.84,0,1. 02,0.85,0.65,1.93,0,0,0.76
    AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_,30.33,47 .37,11.04,4.58,2.63,0.68,0.49,0.00,1.56,0.89,0.00, 0.42,0.00
    R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21.47,16. 31,31.17,4.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,1.31,0.53,0.15

    Target: Daco
    Distance: 273.4891% / 2.73489075
    67.8 France_IA_BES1248
    31.0 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    1.2 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_


    Target: Daco
    Distance: 280.3416% / 2.80341621 | ADC: 0.25x
    69.8 France_IA_BES1248
    30.2 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial

    15.45427449 France_IA_BES1248
    29.31968110 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    35.72724171 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial

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    Target:
    Distance: 0.2532% / 0.25322615
    14.6 kal006_Sigtuna_10_12_century_
    8.2 kzb003_Russia_Srubnaya_Alakul.SG_3650_ybp
    4.4 JK1968_Levaluhta_
    4.0 I2792_Croatia_Vucedol_4677_ybp
    3.4 DA381_Turkmenistan_Namazga_CA.SG_5181_ybp
    3.4 I2373_Hungary_Koros_EN_7700_ybp
    3.2 I4880_Serbia_Iron_Gates_HG_7813_ybp
    2.8 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_Brandysek_other_versi on_2000_years_H1af2_
    2.8 kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1_
    2.4 I5835_Germany_Bell_Beaker_father.or.son.I1533_4200 _ybp
    2.2 I4199_Hungary_ALPc_Tiszadob_MN_7050_ybp
    2.0 I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp
    1.8 BU2001_Beliy_Ugol_N_Caucasus_2_4674_years_old_y_R1 b1a2a2_
    1.8 I1295_Bulgaria_MP_N_7752_ybp
    1.8 I2477_Beaker_North_Italy_I2477_F_T2b3_151_
    1.8 Kunila2_Estonia_Corded_Ware.SG_4408_ybp
    1.8 RISE487_Remedello_di_Sotto_Italy_4557_years_M_I_CT S6231_H2c1_
    1.6 Sima_del_Angel_LU339_Spain_4889_BC
    1.4 DA119_Slovakia_Poprad_1600_R_U106_U4b3_375_AD_2_
    1.4 DA121_Kangju_150_to_300_AD_kazakhstan_
    1.4 I2026_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp
    1.4 MJ35_West_Scythian_Q1c0L332_
    1.4 R851_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini
    1.2 CO1_Apc_Berekalja_I_Hungary_2700_2900_cal_BC_F_H_
    1.2 I0073_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
    1.2 I4889_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4122_ybp
    1.2 kzb009_srubno_alakulskaya_1764_1624bce_
    1.2 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce_
    1.2 urm160_Sigtuna_
    1.0 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary_
    1.0 I1901_Hungary_Lengyel_LN_6600_ybp
    1.0 I2651_Neolithic_Orkney_5kya_
    0.8 84005_Sigtuna_10_12_century_
    0.8 ARM001_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_5329_5_years_old_R1a1_
    0.8 KDC002_Kudachurt_MBA_N_Caucasus_3734_years_old_HV1 a1_
    0.8 Neolithic_GAC_Farmer0_Globular_Amphora_Culture_(GA C)_RISE1168_Koszyce_Southern_Poland_
    0.8 sar00665_sar00665_
    0.6 ANI163_Bulgaria_Varna_EN3_6577_ybp
    0.6 DA106_nomad_Kyrgystan_1000_1250_AD_
    0.6 I0413_Iberia_EN_7139_ybp
    0.6 I1658_Armenia_EBA_5170_ybp
    0.6 I4971_Hungary_Koros_EN_HG_7592_ybp
    0.6 I5525_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4250_ybp
    0.6 MK5009_Marinskaya_5_N_Caucasus_4710_R1b1a2_R1a1a_
    0.6 R1224_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
    0.6 RISE109_Poland_Unetice_EBA.SG_3813_ybp
    0.6 RISE523_Russia_Mezhovskaya.SG_3448_ybp
    0.6 grt036_Sigtuna_10_12_century_
    0.6 kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce_
    0.4 ChalcolithicIranian_
    0.4 I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_
    0.4 I0559_Germany_Baalberge_MN_5541_ybp
    0.4 I2199_Iberia_EN_7074_ybp
    0.4 I2600_England_CA_EBA_daughter_o_I2457_3990_ybp
    0.4 I2789_Hungary_Protoboleraz_LCA_5650_ybp
    0.4 OSS1_nogir3_Maykop_culture_5570_year_old_
    0.4 STR300b_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp
    0.4 i2056_Unakozovskaya_N_Caucasus_6477_year_old_
    0.4 i6266_Klady_Maykop_culture_
    0.4 stg020_Sigtuna_F_t2_
    0.2 ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_culture_5148_years _old_
    0.2 ANCIENT_i6272_DlinnayaPolyana_MaykopNovosvovodnaya _5200_year_old_
    0.2 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk_Turkey_3943 _BC
    0.2 DA125_Kazakhstan_Kangju.SG_1724_ybp
    0.2 I1584_Anatolia_C_5776_ybp
    0.2 I3875_Beaker_South_France_I3875_2_
    0.2 I7041_Hungary_BA_brother.I7043_4300_ybp
    0.2 Ottoman_MA2195_
    0.2 R61_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
    0.2 RK1003_Rasshevatskiy_1_N_Caucasus_4750_F_R1a1a_
    0.2 Saxtorp5164_Sweden_3945_3647y_old_
    0.2 ValeOuro_10207_PT_BA_ValeOuro_10207_
    0.2 grt035_grt035_Sigtuna_10012_century
    0.2 i2055_Unakozovskaya_N_Caucasus_6533_years_old_M_J2 _CTS900_R1a_
    0.2 scy010_scythian_795_542bce_F_N1b1a_
    0.2 scy197_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp

    Target:
    Distance: 1.5887% / 1.58873993 | ADC: 0.25x
    40.6 MJ37_Chernyakhov_2430386_AD_
    36.0 DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
    16.8 MJ16_West_Scythian_J2a0B437_
    5.2 I1113_Bulgaria_MP_N_7983_ybp
    1.4 I4131_Hungary_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4289_ybp

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    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 3.4791% / 3.47911861 | ADC: 0.25x
    45.8 France_IA_BES1248
    40.4 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    13.8 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    Frank + Avar (5.894)
    Scythian + Ostrogoth (6.58)
    Scythian (9.327)
    Ostrogoth (11.38)
    Frank (11.88)
    Viking Danish (12.17)
    Avar (14.36)

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