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    more Hungarian members DNA Land

    MagicalM (didn't specify North Slavic amount though, as NE Europe includes both N.Slavic and Finnish)

    West Eurasian 100%
    North Western Europe 42%
    North East Europe 34%
    Mediterranean Islander 24%

    Egyvalaki

    West Eurasian: 100%

    Northwest european: 43%

    South European:
    Balkan: 29%
    South/Central European: 9,1%

    Northeast European
    Finnish: 8,9%
    North Slavic: 3,8%


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    Northwest European 35%
    South/Central European 30%
    North Slavic 21%
    Ashkenazi 5.4%
    Sardinian 5%
    Ambiguous 1.2%
    North African 2%

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    ^^^^all 3 score more northwest than northeast europe, and only Egyvalaki is from western Hungary as far as I know. Couldn't find Videx results, but she would surely score more NW as well, considering her gedmatch data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benyzero View Post
    Turul karom will turn out 99.5 % turkic. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    ^^^^all 3 score more northwest than northeast europe, and only Egyvalaki is from western Hungary as far as I know. Couldn't find Videx results, but she would surely score more NW as well, considering her gedmatch data.
    Grandparents from my mother's side are from north west(by Austrian border) and south west(By Croatia) Hungary respectively. My father's side is central/eastern and Transylvanian.

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    Related thread:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...DNA-Land-stats

    Magyar DNA Land statistics

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanjaLuka View Post
    Balkan + East Europe is most common and frequent in results from Hungary.

    The percentages represent the portion of MyHeritage DNA users in Hungary who have that ethnicity.
    Balkan
    82.6%
    East European
    77%
    North and West European
    42%
    Scandinavian
    31.1%
    Baltic
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    Balkan is the most present and frequent component along with Slavic East European so when you count in Balkan you are really predominately population of Slavic origin and I agree you are typical (East)-Central Europeans.

    Now I know it makes most of Hungarians very sad to have Balkan origin but DEAL WITH IT.

    You ruled over Bosnia and Croatia for centuries and you wonder why you have so high Balkan DNA....People and goods moved freely and especially Hungarians in and around Budapest are very close genetically to Croats and Bosnians as well as those living close to Border with Croatia. I have matches in Hungary with 0.5% shared dna and largest segments being 30-33 CM and I am Bosnian Serb of mixed Montenegrin&Croat background. Those Hungarians I see in my matches and find on Facebook all live near and around Budapest and have typical Hungarian family names and in family trees I can't find any Slavic surnames even for 4-5 generations and yet they are genetically more related to me than a girl who has the same family name as I do and is my distant cousin from my city and we share only 0.3% DNA.

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    My great-grandfather was in Bosnisch-hercegovinisches Infanterie Regiment Nr. 2 and after being severely wounded in battle on Monte Meletti he was transfered to Budapest for medical treatment, he had a shrapnel lodged 2 cm away from his heart, it was inoperable back then and so it's not excluded that he banged and knocked up some Hungarian babe while he was recovering from his wounds and thus such close relatives in Hungary and more Slavic genes added to Hungarian gene pool
    I would be curious for a link to this study that average Hungarians tested on MyHeritageDNA get Balkans as first result? Most Hungarian results I have seen from various testing companies score Eastern European first (ca. 40-50%), and than German and Balkan around equal percentages (ca. 15-20%). Also the only Balkanic populations that plot close to Hungarians are Croatians and Slovenians, otherwise Czechs, Slovaks and Austrians are the closest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Found Dunai result:

    1. North Slavic 53%
    2. Northwest European 23%
    3. South/Central European 15%
    4. Central Indoeuropean 6.7%
    5. Ambiguous Ashkenazi/Levantine 1.4%
    6. Ambiguous West Eurasian 1%

    High Slavic again and he is from Alfold. East Hungary def. appear to be more Slavic than western Hungary, which is more German. Danube which divides them was a huge barrier for gene-flow in the past.
    But as you see he also scores lot of NW Euro as do all Hungarians. And he has Caucasus (central IE) like Stears , more than him. I suspect distant Jassic root.
    It's very strange to me also such high North Slavic result, because the only Slavs I could find in my family tree were on one small branch beginning with the early 19th century, and they were Slovaks. Also on PCA maps I plot rather far from North Slavs. Jász ancestry is very possible though, because they originate from Alans, who lived around the Caucasus region (hence I am getting Caucasus results), and I discovered that some of my 19th century branches originate from locations with known Jász-Hungarian population.

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    Igor Kolomiytsev puts forward a version that the Pannonian Slavs (the ancestral home of all Slavs was in Hungary) are slavized Germans: Lombards and Gepids. This mixing took place within the Avar Khaganate.

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    i used some very clear samples on the Hungarian k13 results:

    France_IA_BES1248 for western european admix:
    Distance to:
    France_IA_BES1248
    2.53248889 Orcadian
    2.89912056 English_Midlands
    3.11173585 English
    3.30572231 Southwest_English

    AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_ for Slavic admix:
    Distance to:
    AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    2.86347691 Polish
    4.12521515 Russian_Smolensk
    4.30333592 Estonian_Polish
    4.64908593 Cossacks_Kuban


    R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial for Native Balkan admix:
    3.00765690 Campania
    3.08982200 Sicily
    3.35732036 Central_Greek
    3.73218435 East_Sicilian

    Target: Hungarian
    Distance: 1.1069% / 1.10694197

    54.4 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    26.8 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    18.8 France_IA_BES1248

    Target: Hungarian_Alfold
    Distance: 1.1961% / 1.19607004

    58.6 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    27.6 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    13.8 France_IA_BES1248

    Target: Hungarian_Budapest
    Distance: 0.7543% / 0.75432629

    52.8 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    25.2 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    22.0 France_IA_BES1248

    Target: Hungarian_Csango
    Distance: 2.5359% / 2.53591950

    51.2 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    39.4 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    9.4 France_IA_BES1248

    Target: Hungarian_Northern
    Distance: 1.9545% / 1.95452608

    63.0 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    20.2 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    16.8 France_IA_BES1248

    Target: Hungarian_Szekely
    Distance: 2.1658% / 2.16584573

    45.0 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    36.8 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    18.2 France_IA_BES1248

    Target: Hungarian_Transdanubia
    Distance: 1.2940% / 1.29398618

    49.6 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    25.4 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    25.0 France_IA_BES1248

    Target: Hungarian_Transylvania
    Distance: 1.9781% / 1.97814638

    48.4 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    35.4 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    16.2 France_IA_BES1248

    you can also try it out yourself:

    my results:
    Target: mh
    Distance: 2.4586% / 2.45861319

    36.4 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
    36.2 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    27.4 France_IA_BES1248

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    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 4.2830% / 4.28300425 | ADC: 0.25x
    47.6 France_IA_BES1248
    39.0 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    13.4 R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
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