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    My results:

    [1,] "Sidon_ERS1790730_" "13.0941"
    [2,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790730_" "13.209"
    [3,] "ASH2_3_Philistine_" "13.2883"
    [4,] "ASH003_Philistine_" "13.4051"
    [5,] "ASH066_Philistine_" "13.646"
    [6,] "BA_Sydon_" "14.1524"
    [7,] "ASH29_Philistine_" "14.2527"
    [8,] "IA_Levant_Egypt_" "14.3688"
    [9,] "VAR43_3DRIF26_Gladiator_York_100_400_AD_" "14.7327"
    [10,] "ASH33_Philistine_" "14.8053"
    [11,] "IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_" "15.7248"
    [12,] "I4351_Copper_Age_Iran_I4351_" "15.7941"
    [13,] "3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator" "16.0351"
    [14,] "ASH087_Philistine_" "16.3043"
    [15,] "3drif_26_Vadim_s_file_gladiator" "16.8372"
    [16,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790733_" "16.8953"
    [17,] "Sidon_ERS1790733_" "16.9466"
    [18,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790732_" "17.0423"
    [19,] "Sidon_ERS1790732_" "17.0726"
    [20,] "sidon_731_" "17.4466"
    [21,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790731_" "17.6087"
    [22,] "ASH8_Philistine_" "18.7802"
    [23,] "ASH135_Philistine_" "19.0972"
    [24,] "Egyptian_mumy_" "19.512"
    [25,] "I4241_Copper_Age_Iran_I4241_" "19.6198"
    [26,] "I0867_Levant_PPNB_Motza_Israel_7300_6750_BCE_ " "20.3349"
    [27,] "Egyptian_mummy_" "20.4935"
    [28,] "CL38_Greek_south_Italian_2" "21.1096"
    [29,] "Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_" "21.4769"
    [30,] "jk2911_Egypt_769_560_BC_2" "21.4971"

    Mixed:

    [1,] "37.6 % i1407_areni_merged_ + 62.4 % VAR43_3DRIF26_Gladiator_York_100_400_AD_" "3.9255"
    [2,] "36.9 % i1407_areni_merged_ + 63.1 % IA_Levant_Egypt_" "3.9812"
    [3,] "60.5 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 39.5 % i1407_areni_merged_" "4.5844"
    [4,] "39 % i1407_areni_merged_ + 61 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_" "4.5912"
    [5,] "59.7 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 40.3 % I1955_Kurdistan_Medieval_1430_1485_AD]_" "4.8197"
    [6,] "59.7 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 40.3 % Late_Medieval_Iran_" "4.8328"
    [7,] "39.8 % I1955_Kurdistan_Medieval_1430_1485_AD]_ + 60.2 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_" "4.8645"
    [8,] "60.2 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_ + 39.8 % Late_Medieval_Iran_" "4.88"
    [9,] "38.1 % Late_Medieval_Iran_ + 61.9 % VAR43_3DRIF26_Gladiator_York_100_400_AD_" "4.9244"
    [10,] "38 % I1955_Kurdistan_Medieval_1430_1485_AD]_ + 62 % VAR43_3DRIF26_Gladiator_York_100_400_AD_" "4.9313"


    My maternal Palestinian cousin:

    [1,] "BA_Sydon_" "16.0126"
    [2,] "Sidon_ERS1790730_" "16.4045"
    [3,] "ASH066_Philistine_" "16.5225"
    [4,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790730_" "16.549"
    [5,] "IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_" "16.8258"
    [6,] "3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator" "17.0058"
    [7,] "ASH2_3_Philistine_" "17.1141"
    [8,] "IA_Levant_Egypt_" "17.1187"
    [9,] "VAR43_3DRIF26_Gladiator_York_100_400_AD_" "17.3715"
    [10,] "ASH33_Philistine_" "17.8832"
    [11,] "ASH29_Philistine_" "17.9042"
    [12,] "ASH003_Philistine_" "18.4694"
    [13,] "3drif_26_Vadim_s_file_gladiator" "19.5537"
    [14,] "I4351_Copper_Age_Iran_I4351_" "19.7196"
    [15,] "CL38_Greek_south_Italian_2" "19.7465"
    [16,] "Sidon_ERS1790732_" "19.9107"
    [17,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790732_" "19.968"
    [18,] "ASH087_Philistine_" "21.2976"
    [19,] "Egyptian_mumy_" "21.3915"
    [20,] "sidon_731_" "21.4379"
    [21,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790731_" "21.5347"
    [22,] "ASH135_Philistine_" "21.7783"
    [23,] "Sidon_BA_ERS1790733_" "21.8605"
    [24,] "Sidon_ERS1790733_" "21.9274"
    [25,] "CL38_Greek_south_Italian_" "22.1361"
    [26,] "CL30_Greek_south_Italian_" "22.3107"
    [27,] "ASH8_Philistine_" "22.5243"
    [28,] "i1632_areni_merged_" "22.5274"
    [29,] "I0867_Levant_PPNB_Motza_Israel_7300_6750_BCE_ " "22.787"
    [30,] "I8205_iberia" "22.8607"

    Mixed

    [1,] "59.8 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 40.2 % i1407_areni_merged_" "6.7138"
    [2,] "39.8 % i1407_areni_merged_ + 60.2 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_" "6.8925"
    [3,] "67.8 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 32.2 % RISE397_Kapan_Armenia_2807_years_M_R1b_Z2103_Z2106 _BY3296_T1a2" "7.2551"
    [4,] "67.8 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 32.2 % LBA_Armenia_RISE397_" "7.2651"
    [5,] "68.2 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_ + 31.8 % RISE397_Kapan_Armenia_2807_years_M_R1b_Z2103_Z2106 _BY3296_T1a2" "7.4512"
    [6,] "68.2 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_ + 31.8 % LBA_Armenia_RISE397_" "7.4609"
    [7,] "58.2 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 41.8 % i1632_areni_merged_" "7.6145"
    [8,] "64.9 % 3drif_26_Laz_et_al_2017_gladiator + 35.1 % CHL_Armenia_" "7.6883"
    [9,] "41.4 % i1632_areni_merged_ + 58.6 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_" "7.7402"
    [10,] "59.2 % IA_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26b_ + 40.8 % MA2198_Hellenistic_Anatolia" "7.8121"

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    The genetic structure of Palestinian Muslims and Christians from Anthrogenica:
    That's why using historically relevant/proximate samples (rather than much more distal components like Yamnaya_Ukraine) is much better for this sort of thing.

    I like using the Levant_LBN_Roman sample because that data point:

    a) Either immediately precedes or narrowly postdates the immigration of Jews to Roman Western Europe (in other words, before ethnogensis of Ashkenazim)
    b) Precedes the appearance of Islam and whatever demographic changes it might have brought.

    The "Egyptian" is almost certainly from post-Islamic Egyptians since the Roman_England_outlier (3DRIF-26) most closely matches modern Egyptian Copts, and this sample provides a substantially inferior fit. Of course, the Roman-era Levant probably featured a cline with "Arabian" and "Northeast African" ancestry increasing as one moved from Lebanon towards Gaza, and so the Roman Lebanon sample might inflate those other components for Palestinian Muslims.

    The Palestinian Muslim G25 samples come from the Central District of Israel, FWIW, while Iseid's Parents are Palestinian Christians
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post617517

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    Coptic MyTruAncestry results:



    In other words, Blacks are not descendants from the ancient Egyptians, period!

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    Great post man. We are kind of outliers though I never knew I was one until the through DNA test

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    The overall middle eastern genetic structure using ancient averaged samples:

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