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Thread: SSA of Arabic/Arabicised people. Homogeneously distributed or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Agree. But as we all know there are MENA and Caucasus groups without any SSA who don't look european.
    CHG is not one of the main ancestors of Europeans.
    Yeah, only Southeastern Europeans and Italians have elevated CHG, that's why they have plenty of exotic people as well. I have the impression that when you mix this kind of European (with heavy CHG) with non-Europeans the offspring is even much more exotic than regular mixed people.

    I remember looking at results of Argentinians and Brazilians with Italian ancestry + SSA or Amerindian and they generally look much more exotic than people with only Iberian + spme kind of mix. North European + some non-white substrate generally look very white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Obviously not. Saudis for example are less SSA admixed than Egyptians and other North Africans while Palestinian Muslims have over 4% pure east-African ancestry(8% if you combine it with the ethio-somali genetic component) while other Levantine Muslims have less than 5%. Christians and the Druze don't have much if any SSA admixture. Copts are around in the same level as Palestinian Muslims while Egyptian Muslims are around between 15 to 22%. Yemeni Arabs from the coast are heavily SSA admixed while those living in other areas are far less admixed. The SSA mixture among the Arabs of Asia and Egypt are mostly from east-Africa while in the Maghreb is mostly from west Africa region. Like I said, we Arabs are like the Hispanic peoples of the Americas or South Asians in terms of genetic diversity and etc.
    Most Palestinians are Egyptian settlers though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I agree, even 3% SSA can influence the phenotype. (I think that celestial player is a good example, she's 97% NW Euro but 3% SSA and she doesn't look at all NW euro but rather S.Euro and even pan "med")
    Hers is of Indian origin.

    north african can be up to 100% it will look like south euro, some are not black!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    I think a lot of the SSA/northafrican in arabs is linked to the proto-semites.
    If that was the case, Assyrians would have SSA too but they don't. Proto-Semites were West Asians without any SSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    If that was the case, Assyrians would have SSA too but they don't. Proto-Semites were West Asians without any SSA.
    Has to do with Palestinian settlers and their distribution after the creation of Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Has to do with Palestinian settlers and their distribution after the creation of Israel
    Arabs in general got their SSA from the slave trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Hers is of Indian origin.

    north african can be up to 100% it will look like south euro, some are not black!
    Celestial isn't from indian origin.

    And "noth-african" don't mean anything per se, there are a lot of different component in the case "north-african" (like iberomaurusian DNA ), people like Nassbean could give you more detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I agree, even 3% SSA can influence the phenotype. (I think that celestial player is a good example, she's 97% NW Euro but 3% SSA and she doesn't look at all NW euro but rather S.Euro and even pan "med")
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Yep. I remember people discussing on why she was so dark for Anglos and for me it was always obvious that her darkness came from the 3% SSA. She could pass in Southern Europe, yeah, but also in North Africa, Levant etc.

    This cousin of mine is the same thing, he can maybe pass for atypical Southern European, but he can also pass for North African, Levant, Iranian etc.
    Do you guys seriously ascribe her looks (or anyone else's) to such a tiny percentage? Honestly I find it rather hard to believe. I'm gonna try finding her GEDmatch now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I agree, even 3% SSA can influence the phenotype. (I think that celestial player is a good example, she's 97% NW Euro but 3% SSA and she doesn't look at all NW euro but rather S.Euro and even pan "med")
    Logically it would be her med genes that made her look med rather than a tiny amount of SSA considering she looked zero percent negroid. She was also part French by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    If that was the case, Assyrians would have SSA too but they don't. Proto-Semites were West Asians without any SSA.
    I was referring to the ancestors of the proto-semites. Proto afro-asiatics. I think Assyrians are mostly derived from a native West Asian population. They even look completely different from other semites imo.

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