Genetically, which is the more mixed country: Finland or Iceland?

**Leto** · 11-02-2019, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

But..do they have around 40% of their Y-DNA belong to the N haplogroup which is commonly found in Siberia? I know that autosomally speaking they cluster with other North-Eastern Europeans including their Germanic neighbors but..

The Baltic-Finnic clade of N is different from those of Siberians. And Finland is not 40% N but around 60%.

**Jana** · 11-02-2019, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

But..do they have around 40% of their Y-DNA belong to the N haplogroup which is commonly found in Siberia? I know that autosomally speaking they cluster with other North-Eastern Europeans including their Germanic neighbors but..

N which Finns carry is original Finno-Ugric haplogroup. Finns are Finno-Ugric people. What is not clear there?

**~~Kamal900~~** · 11-02-2019, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

The Baltic-Finnic clade of N is different from those of Siberians. And Finland is not 40% N but around 60%.

I see. Were they originally Caucasoids or Mongoloids?

**Token** · 11-02-2019, 06:05 PM

The concept of being mixed is very subjective.

**Leto** · 11-02-2019, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

I see. Were they originally Caucasoids or Mongoloids?

I don't think this question is relevant to what the OP is asking. However, he should define what exactly he means by 'mixed'. Both Finns and Icelanders are very homogenous groups although the Icelanders being a smaller nation living on a smaller territory must be a bit more homogeneous than the Finns. There are only 300,000 Icelanders or so and imagine how many were a few centuries ago. They're basically one big family.

**~~Kamal900~~** · 11-02-2019, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

I don't think this question is relevant to what the OP is asking. However, he should define what exactly he means by 'mixed'. Both Finns and Icelanders are very homogenous groups although the Icelanders being a smaller nation living on a smaller territory must be a bit more homogeneous than the Finns. There are only 300,000 Icelanders or so and imagine how many were a few centuries ago. They're basically one big family.

Yeah, he should have been more specific on that really.

**~~mete~~** · 11-02-2019, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Blondie

Finns are finnic not ugric.

Anyway, same non-European, non-white Uralic people.

**Leto** · 11-02-2019, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by mete

Anyway, same non-European, non-white Uralic people.

You're a troll. Finno-Ugric is a linguistic term, European is a geographic and cultural term (Finland is in Europe by the way which conventionally ends east of the Ural Mountains, Russia) and as for whiteness, Finland is the blondest and most blue-eyed nation, as far as I'm concerned.

**~~mete~~** · 11-02-2019, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

You're a troll. Finno-Ugric is a linguistic term, European is a geographic and cultural term (Finland is in Europe by the way which conventionally ends east of the Ural Mountains, Russia) and as for whiteness, Finland is the blondest and most blue-eyed nation, as far as I'm concerned.

You know some Fins have Saami look with blonde hair and eyes? I'm not trolling. Pure Saamis are pure unmixed Finno-Ugric people. It's like pure Turks had been like Mongolids like Mongols.

**~~mete~~** · 11-02-2019, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

You're a troll. Finno-Ugric is a linguistic term, European is a geographic and cultural term (Finland is in Europe by the way which conventionally ends east of the Ural Mountains, Russia) and as for whiteness, Finland is the blondest and most blue-eyed nation, as far as I'm concerned.

For example, he is less white than even me half Turkish.