Were Bulgars and Magyars related?

[Turul Karom]

This question is basically ''Were Magyars Turkic one''
Answer is there might be cultural connections long ago but not even their language is Turkic.

It isn't that question at all, and there's plenty of running threads for that in the Hungarian section of TA. Take it there or feel free to PM me.

[Bornoz]

It isn't that question at all, and there's plenty of running threads for that in the Hungarian section of TA. Take it there or feel free to PM me.

Well, Bulgars were Turkic and most probably to be related with them Magyars got to be Turkic too.
I think that's the deal basically.

[Jana]

Well, Bulgars were Turkic and most probably to be related with them Magyars got to be Turkic too.
I think that's the deal basically.

No, and that wasn't my question. Modern Bulgarians are without doubt connected to Bulgars who founded their nation, and modern Bulgarians are without doubt Slavic people linguistically.
Belonging to same linguistic family isn't necessity for relation which came come from similar lifestyle, place of living, adoption of cultural customs, mixing etc.

[Turul Karom]

Well, Bulgars were Turkic and most probably to be related with them Magyars got to be Turkic too.
I think that's the deal basically.

I'm sure you can assume my opinion on this, lol. Again, read what you quoted and feel free to PM me or look at other Hungarian threads. This is a good one. I think you'll find the studies and images here on the first page to be informative.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...iginal-Magyars

[Jana]

There could also be a Croatian connection;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuber

I know for such theory, but it isn't most likely one. Croats were most probably just Slavs tbh. There is also Iranic and Gothic theory, but I wouldn't consider them either.
Btw one of sisters name Buga was most likely reference to river Bug in Ukraine, where Slavs dwelled.

[PAGANE]

It is not certain that they were Turkic in nature, but were influenced by many Turks since they were vassals or federates in the West Turkic Haganate for a long time and specifically the Avars

[Jana]

It is not certain that they were Turkic in nature, but were influenced by many Turks since they were vassals or federates in the West Turkic Haganate for a long time and specifically the Avars

Are you talking about Magyars? They lived in Khazar confederation for some time indeed.

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = Feiichy; 6316436] Говорите ли за маджари? Те наистина са живели в конфедерация Хазар известно време. [/ ЦИТОВЕ]
No, I am talking about the Bulgarians before Kubrat's separation from the dependency of the Avars

[Turxanthus]

After Slavicization of Bulgaria, the Magyars were raiding Bulgaria and the latter bribed Pechenegs who expelled Magyars from Ukraine region, by pushing them towards Panonia and Carpathia.

[PAGANE]

In the Middle Ages, there were six major ethnic migrations to Danube Bulgaria. The first is the 799 accident. when Charlemagne crushed the Avars and hundreds of thousands fled to Bulgaria. Accidents in the Bulgarian army were also noticed by the Byzantine chroniclers, where they formed separate cavalry units in the war of 811 under Khan Krum. Then they disappear from the historical scene, assimilating among the Bulgarian people. The second large-scale migration of people, with almost all of the Moravians in 894. After the Bulgarians pushed the Magyars from the lands of the northern Black Sea, they invaded the Great Moravia - the present-day lands of Hungary and Slovakia. The Byzantine chroniclers write: This was the punishment of the ants for their sins. But God did not abandon them, they all fled to Bulgaria, which placed them in their territory. The third major migration was the oysters in the early 11th century. Some believe their descendants are Gagauz. The fourth migration is of the Pechenegs, who are defeated in battle in southern Bulgaria and what remains of them is displaced around Sofia, Botevgrad, Pirot and Nis. As their descendants, some scholars suggest that this is the Shopi ethnographic group today. The largest massive ethnic settlement in medieval Bulgaria is that of the Cumans. Oppressed by the Tatars, they settled Bulgaria and Hungary. They were so numerous that today almost every city in Bulgaria has place names associated with this ethnonym. They also merged with the Bulgarian aristocracy and gave two medieval Bulgarian royal dynasties - the Terterites and the Shishmanovs. The last large ethnic group to settle in Bulgaria in 1308 was about 60,000 Alani families who were originally Byzantine settlers in Eastern Thrace. Because the Byzantines stop paying them, they turn to the Bulgarian Tsar Svetoslav Terter and he settles them around Plovdiv. In 2001. A large silver treasure was discovered in the area around Plovdiv by their chieftain Konstantin Alan. Unfortunately, it was exported illegally from Bulgaria.