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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Torlakian sounds softer and more Russian shifted neo-shtokavian.
    and neo-shtokavian sounds like Slovak

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    and neo-shtokavian sounds like Slovak
    Because of that Slovak is most familiar Slavic language outside of Balkan to me.

    Speech in "Zona Zamfirova" (Torlakian) have more Old Slavic/Russian/Church Slavonic vibe than speech in "Orlovi rano lete" or "Prosjaci i sinovi" (Neo Shtokavian).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    the r1a and i2a "tribes" were probably competely merged, by genetics and language, back in the proto-Slavic homeland. the clearer and stronger pronunciation comes from the "e-v13 Vlachs"
    It dosnt sound that clear to me, more like East Slavic trying to speak a Romance language. Also Aromuns are more R1b, J2 and I2a2 from a 2005 study



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    It dosnt sound that clear to me, more like East Slavic trying to speak a Romance language. Also Aromuns are more R1b, J2 and I2a2 from a 2005 study


    i meant the pre-Slavic population of Western Balkans who were mostly e-v13. anyway a Portuguese can learn Serbian pronounciation easily, and we can learn Portuguese, but a Russian can study Serbian for 10 years and still speak with a strong accent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    anyway a Portuguese can learn Serbian pronounciation easily.
    I highly doubt that

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    i meant the pre-Slavic population of Western Balkans who were mostly e-v13. anyway a Portuguese can learn Serbian pronounciation easily, and we can learn Portuguese, but a Russian can study Serbian for 10 years and still speak with a strong accent.
    Kriči were Latin speaking Vlachs who are slavized/serbified probably in 14th century, they were J2b-M205 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriči

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    I highly doubt that
    Brazilian(Portuguese speaker):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg753w_M3zA

    Russian living in Serbia:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHHCL99itk

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    Early Slavs were just Balts basicly impregnated with some Greek sperm"in particular their YDNA", thats why some
    Slavs score Peloponnesian or even Minoan Greek and how the Pontid and Dinaric phenotype came into Slavs
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Kriči were Latin speaking Vlachs who are slavized/serbified probably in 14th century, they were J2b-M205 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriči
    yes. but e-v13 is the 3rd most common haplogroup among south Slavs after i2a and r1a.

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