were early Slavs just mongrel/watered down Balts?

[Token]

You think during Corded ware culture BaltoSlavs and Germanics were one big happy family?

Probably.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

A lot of linguists (including Frederik Kortlandt) believes that there was Balto-Slavic-Indo-Iranian period, not Germanics with them.

[Dick]

A lot of linguists (including Frederik Kortlandt) believes that there was Balto-Slavic-Indo-Iranian period, not Germanics with them.

Satem period

[vbnetkhio]

You think during Corded ware culture BaltoSlavs and Germanics were one big happy family?

kind of. one part of what would become Germanics. Germanics also have a strong Bell Beaker admixture. or perhaps even dominantly Bell beaker

A lot of linguists (including Frederik Kortlandt) believes that there was Balto-Slavic-Indo-Iranian period, not Germanics with them.

probably because the Bell Beaker influence pulled Germanics away from Balto-Slavs

[War Chef]

What is missing is the Balto-Slavic drift that occured between the Late Neolithic and Bronze Age. This is why you won't get tight fits in any model for Balto-Slavs, both modern and ancient, using pre Bronze Age samples or Bronze Age samples from outside of Northeast Europe.

kind of. one part of what would become Germanics. Germanics also have a strong Bell Beaker admixture. or perhaps even dominantly Bell beaker



probably because the Bell Beaker influence pulled Germanics away from Balto-Slavs

I thought Germanics have LBK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Pottery_culture) admixture that the Slavs don't have much of? Yes, also bell-beaker.

By the way, Bell beakers were Iberian-looking people mostly? Just taller etc.

[Token]

I thought Germanics have LBK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Pottery_culture) admixture that the Slavs don't have much of? Yes, also bell-beaker.

By the way, Bell beakers were Iberian-looking people mostly? Just taller etc.

Bell Beakers were most similar to Norwegians, lol.

[Benyzero]

This is what I imagined when I heard the term bell beaker first time

[vbnetkhio]

I thought Germanics have LBK

looking at that map, i would say proto-Germanics in Scandinavia were Ertebølle+Corded Ware(Battle axe)+Bell Beaker+ a little inevitable LBK.