Turanic Brotherhood

[PAGANE]

Brotherhood based on what? In a common language? The common religion? Of a common story? Of a common culture?

[Turul Karom]

Brotherhood based on what? In a common language? The common religion? Of a common story? Of a common culture?

Shared steppe past. There was also common religion and culture then. Hungarian alphabet is also a Turkic alphabet. This is not disputed.

[Blondie]

I promised to leave this place, but when i see this thread and the answers.... oh my fking god...

1. There is no civic nationalism in Hungary, Feiichy don't know what are she talking about as several times. The hungarian political system was feudalism between medieval age and 1945. I know officially feudalism was erased in 19. century, but the situation doesn't changed in the real life. The communist system between 1945-1990 was also not a civic society. The french history was totally different and nobody accept gypsies, blacks, turks, arabs and other foreigners as real hungarians here, that's why it's not a civic nationalism.

2. I thought Turul Karom is a complete lunatic propagandist with serious personality disorder (he's white and consider himself mongoloid asian) who needs a doctor, but now he has outdone himself. Saying that hungarians are not white europeans it's a different level on lunatic scale when he posted a 100 years "ethnic map" which based on only languages....

Brotherhood based on what? In a common language? The common religion? Of a common story? Of a common culture?

Based on nothing in the 21. century, do you really belive in what Turul Karom says? It's not my business but if you are all really belive him (or Stears or now Feiichy too always liked his propaganda) you will get a totally wrong pic of Hungary. This is very sad that only Turul Karom and Stears represented Hungary here and other hungarians don't want to argue with this two copy paste idiot because they are sick and tired to argue with him.

That's why the Apricity is sucks because they don't ban trolls, european hater foreigners, and lunatic persons. Very sad because TA is a good idea and would be a good community without these biotrash.

[Smeagol]

Civic nationalism works only when the foreign party you assimilate has some genetic and cultural ties to the nation in question. Civic nationalism has not nor will it ever work in a place like the United States for example. What I'm trying to say is that you gotta draw the line somewhere.

What worked in the United States was the system we had up until 1965.

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = Turul Karom; 6320217] Споделено степно минало. Тогава имаше и обща религия и култура. Унгарската азбука също е тюркска азбука. Това не е спорно.



[/ Цитат]

But we all live in the present day. How will you separate that part of your nation today that does not share the steppe origin? Will you return to pagan religion, or how will you integrate into the religion that is professed by most of the former steppe peoples today? Does language unite you? Does culture unite you? Today, Hungary writes in Latin or uses a runic letter?

[Jana]

I promised to leave this place, but when i see this thread and the answers.... oh my fking god...

1. There is no civic nationalism in Hungary, Feiichy don't know what are she talking about as several times. The hungarian political system was feudalism between medieval age and 1945.

Are you retarded or just dumb? Civic nationalism doesn't have anything to do with feudalism or lack of it.
It is exactly a reason why a foreigner like you identifes as Hungarian. Or why Lajos Kossuth identified as one, or Sandor Petofi who had no Hungarian blood.

Your elites adopted nationalism which was based on identification with Kingdom of Hungary and not ethnic origin and that is why tons of Germans like you are Hungarian today.

Hungarian 19th century nationalists were anything but only Hungarians. Wake up your your fantasies.

[Turul Karom]

I promised to leave this place, but when i see this thread and the answers.... oh my fking god...

I thought Turul Karom is a complete lunatic propagandist with serious personality disorder (he's white and consider himself mongoloid asian) who needs a doctor, but now he has outdone himself. Saying that hungarians are not white europeans it's a different level on lunatic scale when he posted a 100 years "ethnic map" which based on only languages....

Looooooooooooooooooooooool.

First, the Meyers ethnographic chart is not a language chart, it is an "ethnic" chart.

Second, when have I ever said I was "mongoloid asian"? All I've ever said is that I don't care about pursuing whiteness (or I guess to put it to you, yellowness either) as an identity and am only concerned with being Hungarian. It's obvious that Hungarians today are seen as practically white by most people, especially given the EU who calls us so now, but in a very derogatory way. They use these ideas to destroy ethnic identities so everyone can be absorbed into their burgeoning Brussels empire.

Find me where I explicitly identify as "mongoloid asian" anywhere on this forum and I'll leave TA along with you and remove my posts.

Based on nothing in the 21. century, do you really belive in what Turul Karom says? It's not my business but if you are all really belive him (or Stears or now Feiichy too always liked his propaganda) you will get a totally wrong pic of Hungary. This is very sad that only Turul Karom and Stears represented Hungary here and other hungarians don't want to argue with this two copy paste idiot because they are sick and tired to argue with him.

But you will make it your business, who posts the same wikipedia articles again and again as though wikipedia is a source.

Also, hating the EU is not "hating Europe". Stop conflating that.

That's why the Apricity is sucks because they don't ban trolls, european hater foreigners, and lunatic persons. Very sad because TA is a good idea and would be a good community without these biotrash.

........and here it is, where you consider people biologically inferior when Mr. 1488 himself claimed that the Germans failed his self-made WW2 gauntlet and deserved to perish in fire.

[Jana]

Let's see origins of leading Hungarian 19th century nationalists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1ndor_Pet%C5%91fi

Petőfi was born in the New Year's morning of 1823, in the town of Kiskőrös, Kingdom of Hungary, Austrian Empire. The population of Kiskőrös was predominantly of Slovak origin as a consequence of the Habsburgs' reconstruction policy designed to settle, where possible, non-Hungarians in areas devastated during the Turkish wars. His birth certificate, in Latin, gives his name as "Alexander Petrovics", where "Alexander" is the Latin equivalent of the Hungarian "Sándor". His father, István (Stefan) Petrovics, was a village butcher, innkeeper and he was a second-generation Serb or Slovak immigrant to the Great Hungarian Plain. Mária Hrúz, Petőfi's mother, was a servant and laundress before her marriage. She was of Slovak descent and spoke Hungarian with something of an accent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lajos_Kossuth

Kossuth was born in Monok, Kingdom of Hungary, a small town in the county of Zemplén, as the oldest of four children in a Lutheran noble family of partial Slovak origin. His father, László Kossuth (1762–1839), belonged to the lower nobility, had a small estate and was a lawyer by profession. László Kossuth had two brothers (Simon Kossuth and György Kossuth) and one sister (Jana). The House of Kossuth originated from the county of Turóc (now partially Turiec region, Košúty, north-central Slovakia). They acquired the rank of nobility in 1263 from King Béla IV. Lajos Kossuth's mother, Karolina Weber (1770–1853), was born to a Lutheran family of partial German descent, living in Upper Hungary (today partially Slovakia).

Lmao, mutts and foreigners. If Hungary was ethno-nationalist, these guys would never be allowed to lead the nationalist revolution.

[Jana]

Petrović is pure Montenegrin name, by the way, their royal surname. And yet uber Magyar Sandor died for Hungarian cause, like many other assimilated foreigners.

[Turul Karom]

Are you retarded or just dumb? Civic nationalism doesn't have anything to do with feudalism or lack of it.
It is exactly a reason why a foreigner like you identifes as Hungarian. Or why Lajos Kossuth identified as one, or Sandor Petofi who had no Hungarian blood.

Your elites adopted nationalism which was based on identification with Kingdom of Hungary and not ethnic origin and that is why tons of Germans like you are Hungarian today.

Hungarian 19th century nationalists were anything but only Hungarians. Wake up your your fantasies.

A very accurate post, because though they had Hungarian blood too, just like the conquerors, they mixed with the populations of the region.

A famous name:

Martyr of Arad Török Ignác, who died for our beloved Hungary!

Török = Hungarian for Turk!