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    Short 14 minutes video by Historian Dr. Daniele Ganser

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    Forum members are not ready to discuss the crimes of capitalism.

    The only crimes of communism are of interest to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseen View Post
    Forum members are not ready to discuss the crimes of capitalism.

    The only crimes of communism are of interest to them.
    Both terms are used as buzzwords in argument, communism less so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    Both terms are used as buzzwords in argument, communism less so.
    Do you have more appropriate terms for these two phenomena?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseen View Post
    Do you have more appropriate terms for these two phenomena?
    Capitalism is a really vague term. Communism is better understood, but communists often themselves reject the various other factions within themselves as 'fascists' or 'chauvinists', or 'anarkiddies'.

    Discussion can be had if two try. Please begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseen View Post
    Forum members are not ready to discuss the crimes of capitalism.

    The only crimes of communism are of interest to them.
    Communism/Socialism doesn't work unless it is a small tribe of people. Should government confiscate Youtube, Facebook, or this forum for the Glorious revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    Capitalism is a really vague term. Communism is better understood, but communists often themselves reject the various other factions within themselves as 'fascists' or 'chauvinists', or 'anarkiddies'.

    Discussion can be had if two try. Please begin.
    I think the following definition will suffice for our forum:

    By capitalist, I will primarily understand those countries whose national wealth is owned in parts (this will distinguish them from countries such as the USSR where the state owned all the resources and large enterprises of the country).

    In capitalist countries, on the other hand, people are not, officially, divided into estates in accordance with the nobility of their origin (this will distinguish them from countries in which there are suzerainty and vassality and the division of people into classes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Communism/Socialism doesn't work unless it is a small tribe of people. Should government confiscate Youtube, Facebook, or this forum for the Glorious revolution.
    It can work in places like Sweden even though most of the people on welfare are the migrants from the 3rd world which the taxation rates had gone up the roof according to my paternal uncle living in Sweden(he had been there since the late 70's). This is my uncle in the video btw(skip to 1:00):




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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Communism/Socialism doesn't work unless it is a small tribe of people. Should government confiscate Youtube, Facebook, or this forum for the Glorious revolution.
    From the fact that no one was able to bring communism to life does not follow that capitalism is a very good thing.

    Everyone has already forgotten that in 1802 the Parliament of England was forced to adopt an act according to which children were forbidden to work more than 12 hours a day - "Working hours were limited to 12 hours a day, excluding the time taken for breaks. Apprentices were no longer permitted to work during the night (between 9 pm and 6 am)" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health...tices_Act_1802

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Communism/Socialism doesn't work unless it is a small tribe of people. Should government confiscate Youtube, Facebook, or this forum for the Glorious revolution.
    That do not depend on the government. Has its own community leaders, government provides large infrastructure. It is actually the basis of democratic American of European settlers.

    The Nordics used Christian socialism after feudalism, they were all the same and made a fair division of land (they were very communitarian).

    Russia was a semi-feudal country controlled by a monarchy and lagging behind the western European. Who could accelerate growth was the government with state-owned companies. Worked until the end of the Stalin era.

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