Brazilian population across this enormous country

[Latinus]

I don't agree with his whitewashing agenda but you also have a tendency to darkwash Brazil without ever having setting foot in Brazil and mostly as a mean of distancing yourself from it since you're Portuguese and don't want to be lumped with Brazilians. I perceive this behaviour in Portuguese from these forums (which are eurocentric/whitewasher forums where everyone wants to be the whitest), they always try to darkwash Brazil as most as they can to avoid being confused with Brazilians. They also like to say things like ''yeah, we colonized Brazil, but we don't have anything to do with them, just like Brits with India'' haha.

''White'' is a subjective term anyway, I've seen Brazilians near 95-99% European looking mixed and others with only 70% Euro looking European so these genetic studies with averages need to be taken with a grain of salt if anything.

These "95-99% European looking mixed" Brazilians are an interesting case, in my opinion.
It's not like all the Iberian stock in Brazil is made up of standard looks, some of them were swarthy, had coarser features, and since Brazil is majority pardo, we associate ambiguos features automatically as a sign of race mixing, even if they inherited these traits from Europeans.

[Lucas Rodrigues]

If you try saying what Brazilians look like just conseidering this video, Brazil would be a white country, but we know Brazil, as a whole, is not this white as showed in the video. Most Brazilians are not mullato either, nor the mixed ones. Most mixed Brazilians are triracial and do not look mulatto at all.

[Token]

These "95-99% European looking mixed" Brazilians are an interesting case, in my opinion.
It's not like all the Iberian stock in Brazil is made up of standard looks, some of them were swarthy, had coarser features, and since Brazil is majority pardo, we associate ambiguos features automatically as a sign of race mixing, even if they inherited these traits from Europeans.

I agree. A combination of coarser features from European ancestry combined with some African admixture can make someone look more mixed than he actually is, for example.
Overall, the phenotype is merely a byproduct of your SNPs and morphometric traits are very accurate ancestry estimators. There is a paper where scientists could accurately quantify the amount of European and non European admixture in Latin Americans by measuring their skull, and the standard deviation was quite small when compare to genetic results. Now, how someone will be perceived by other people in a given society is another story and has more to do with sociology than with physical anthropology or genetics.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Ok, but your country is still mixed. Also most of the cities shown in that video are in the South and the Southeast, only Brasilia and Recife were shown outside that region. Also most Bolsonaro supporters (which tbh those demonstrations are 90% made up of Bolsonaro supporters and other right wingers) are white or offwhite pardo (not claiming that there aren't blacks and dark/average pardos who like him).

You are cherrypicking. Most Brazlians are pardo, with significant white and black populations (the amount of Whites being bigger than Blacks but smtg like 20% or 25% x 10%/15%). The number of Caucasian Brazilians are closer to that of Black Brazilians than to that of the pardo population.

Your country is at best 70% non white, don't think I fall into that trap of "half of brazilians are over 80% euro". over 80% means you are 1/5 non white, almost a quadroon.

Where I said Brazil was a white country? Kkkk
My posts are clear about our large number of pardos and whites.

Also, the problem is not mine if you dont agree with several genetic studies, it yours.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

It's about being honest, not being OWD or wanting to "whitewash" anyone. Brazilians have already on average a huge amount of Portuguese ancestry (colonial/recent doesn't matter), which are not already the whitest of the Europeans, put in an average Portuguese (may be med, atlantic, "exotic", nordic, wtv looking) 15%/20% non caucasian input and you will have probably a darker than what you would have thought pardo. Many dark/average looking pardos are in fact only 15-30% non caucasian.

Also people think Brazil is a country of mulattoes/mixed people/mestiços, because perhaps you can't understand that a 100% EuropeanAmerican individual doesn't give a shit if "50% of Brazilians are at least 80% European", I mean he is already 98-100% European, when that myth that Brazil was only blacks and mulattoes spread throughout all over the World (at the course of the 20th century) the USA was 80-90% european/white until the mid 80's/early 90's, the American society (WASP plus white minorities) looked at Brazil as "black/mixed" country, because in fact not even 15/20% Brazilians at any time in history looked like WASP's/Northern European Americans (which even today are 80% of the population). Even today the USA is like 3x/4x more White than Brazil (in terms of absolute numbers), so I don't get your point, and many White Brazilians are already mixed, so I don't get your point, what would you want them to think about Brazilians? Super Sayans out of Valhala?

An American/Canadian/Anglo would even think of an Italian/Portuguese/Spaniard as a "Dago-Guinea olive picker" and not as "one of them", now imagine a country like Brazil and Brazilians in general.

You think too much about gedmatch averages, people will look at you and will tell you that you look like an X, because it's a stereotype of the X population, might be bigoted and discriminative towards others, but if it's a stereotype maybe it's because it has a point of truth in there.

Você se importa demais com a opinião dos americanos, o fato de eles considerarem Mariah Carey negra já mostra que esse povo não entende nada de raça. Boa sorte seguindo critérios americanos para enxergar o mundo.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Most of them are delusional middle class people from gated communities. They are not representative of anything political or phenotypical for the most part, as much as it hurts the inferiority complex of some brazilians here.

Não representam nada e fizeram um desconhecido virar presidente. É, também acho que eles não representam nada.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

A group of white brazilians 80-95% euro would easily pass among these guys, I really see nothing special.

[Lucas Rodrigues]

Americanos são idiotas. Ouvi dizer que portugueses são considerados brancos nos EUA, mas os espanhois não, o que não faz sentido pois portugueses e espanhois parecem iguais. Já li um artigo de um jornalista da Catalunha e ele dizia nesse artigo que ele não era considerado branco, diziam que ele era de tudo, latino, hispanico... mas branco não. Há um video de uma brasileira no youtube, ela tem cara de ibérica, parece que ela tem ascendência espanhola e no vídeo ela diz que nos EUA ela não vista como branca, mas sim hispanica.

Você se importa demais com a opinião dos americanos, o fato de eles considerarem Mariah Carey negra já mostra que esse povo não entende nada de raça. Boa sorte seguindo critérios americanos para enxergar o mundo.

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[Tenma de Pegasus]

Americanos são idiotas. Ouvi dizer que portugueses são considerados brancos nos EUA, mas os espanhois não, o que não faz sentido pois portugueses e espanhois parecem iguais. Já li um artigo de um jornalista da Catalunha e ele dizia nesse artigo que ele não era considerado branco, diziam que ele era de tudo, latino, hispanico... mas branco não. Há um video de uma brasileira no youtube, ela tem cara de ibérica, parece que ela tem ascendência espanhola e no vídeo ela diz que nos EUA ela não vista como branca, mas sim hispanica.

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Pois então, eu não sou contra os EUA, acho que os kras tem mtas coisas boas e que são interessantes pra serem aplicadas na realidade brasileira. Porém quanto a classificação racial deles, acho realmente muito ruim e a gente não precisa copiar coisas ruins, não vou abdicar de coisas melhores do meu País pra adotar erros dos outros. Agora pronto, todo mundo é obrigado a se identificar com seu lado mais estigmatizado, caramba que preconceito. Os negros não tem obrigação de engolir todo mundo como sendo da laia deles. Acho triste um user portugues querer aplicar o padrão dos EUA como se fosse modelo para o mundo. E desde quando dizer que 44-46% são brancos é embranquecer o Brasil? Deixa eu inflar pelo menos uns 10/15% para ser acusado disso tá oquei?

Para completar eu queria dizer que cerca de 2/3 da população brasileira vive no Centro-Sul, ou seja, qualquer coisa abaixo de Brasília, então a maioria das cidades estão lá. Fora do Nordeste Setentrional Oriental, o Norte é um lugar vazio. E que sim, manifestantes de direita tendem a ser mais brancos e menos pobres, mas isso não significa que 56% dos brasileiros sejam brancos de classe média alta kkkk, tem muito pobre e gente de toda raça na direita, da mesma forma que tem branco rico inútil votando no PT uai.

Para terminar, não é qualquer país fora de Australia, EUA, NZ, Canada, Brasil, Argentina e Uruguai que você encontra grandes multidões com tantos brancos. Vá procurar vídeos da direita de outros países latinos que a maioria das multidoes é muito mais miscigenada. E na verdade vi até um bom numero de pardos no vídeo postado, por isso estava comentando que o Brasil é um país de brancos e pardos com poucos negros. Sim, poucos negros mesmo e os poucos 7-9% ainda são 40% euro kkk
Coloquei esse vídeo porque é difícil achar multidoes de brasileiros que não sejam só pobres num evento público ou só classe media e alta e ainda rodando por várias cidades importantes do País. N é fácil de achar, se é que existe um vídeo perfeito que não esteja a mercê de críticas mostrando igualmente todas as classes de Norte a Sul. Se o Cermunos souber um, peço que poste. Talvez Enem? Biometria? Ainda tento ajudar hehe
Enfim, acho que era só isso.

[bandeirante]

Ok, but your country is still mixed. Also most of the cities shown in that video are in the South and the Southeast, only Brasilia and Recife were shown outside that region. Also most Bolsonaro supporters (which tbh those demonstrations are 90% made up of Bolsonaro supporters and other right wingers) are white or offwhite pardo (not claiming that there aren't blacks and dark/average pardos who like him).

You are cherrypicking. Most Brazlians are pardo, with significant white and black populations (the amount of Whites being bigger than Blacks but smtg like 20% or 25% x 10%/15%). The number of Caucasian Brazilians are closer to that of Black Brazilians than to that of the pardo population.

Your country is at best 70% non white, don't think I fall into that trap of "half of brazilians are over 80% euro". over 80% means you are 1/5 non white, almost a quadroon.

Mort pardos are 60 % 80% european um DNA tests