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    Quote Originally Posted by lameduck View Post
    certain Punajbis would be good fit imo (according to my mexican friend) . I think Pashtuns and other such South central Asian groups also have some people that will fit well in americas. Iranians/West Asians will also defo have some people.

    here is an article on Punajbi mexicans , according to article similarity in lifestyle was one of reaons for this bonding

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Mexican_Americans

    Fitting as what type of Latin American?: Harnizo, Mestizo or Castizo? You live in Pakistan right? Your Mexican friend is studying there?

    Can you post some examples of these individuals who can pass fit? Is Mickey Singh a good example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Fitting as what type of Latin American?: Harnizo, Mestizo or Castizo? You live in Pakistan right? Your Mexican friend is studying there?

    Can you post some examples of these individuals who can pass fit? Is Mickey Singh a good example?
    now I am in Europe for studies. There is this ryuzh(mexican guy who lived in atlanta , where there are lot of Pak Punjabi) he also said something similar, you can ask tooting carmen or admaster about in what spectrum those who will pass will fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lameduck View Post
    now I am in Europe for studies. There is this ryuzh(mexican guy who lived in atlanta , where there are lot of Pak Punjabi) he also said something similar, you can ask tooting carmen or admaster about in what spectrum those who will pass will fit.
    Ryuzh? Is he a member of this forum?

    Have you seen the opposite case? Mexicans/other Latins who can pass in South-Central Asia region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Ryuzh? Is he a member of this forum?

    Have you seen the opposite case? Mexicans/other Latins who can pass in South-Central Asia region?
    I am sure there must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Interesting. Which group do you wager has more people passing in the Americas?: those from North Africa to Afghanistan or people from South Asian subcontinent?

    Also do you think there are more Hispanic/Latinos that pass in these regions or more people from these areas that pass in Latin America?

    Agree. I think in the OP's case, since he is a Hazara (very likely), there is the Turanid/Central Asian element that makes him look significantly pseudo-Amerindian admixed as well.

    What nationalities were of those more ambiguous Arabs?
    By far those from North Africa to Afghanistan. It’s rare to see Indians who can easily pass as Latino. Of South Indians I’ve seen I don’t know any that can.

    More people from NA-Afg that pass than the other way around. Latin America has way more diversity and someone who looks obviously Amerindian influences would have difficulties passing while a lot of MENAs fit in the criollo/castizo/harnizo/mestizo spectrum.

    Mostly Levantine also Egyptians I think. Hard to know each time cause you just see their name and don’t ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    By far those from North Africa to Afghanistan. It’s rare to see Indians who can easily pass as Latino. Of South Indians I’ve seen I don’t know any that can.

    More people from NA-Afg that pass than the other way around. Latin America has way more diversity and someone who looks obviously Amerindian influences would have difficulties passing while a lot of MENAs fit in the criollo/castizo/harnizo/mestizo spectrum.

    Mostly Levantine also Egyptians I think. Hard to know each time cause you just see their name and don’t ask
    Interesting. Would there be more Northwest Indians who look pseudo-Latino than other Indians? What about Pakistanis?: would there be slightly more of them who can pass than Indians? I agreed that overall most South Asians look too distinct to pass though.

    Good point. I wager that some of those Latinos who show visibled Amerindian influences would pass best as atypical Central Asian types in the NA-Afg area like among some Turkic minorities in Afghanistan and parts of Iran I think. The conspicuously Amerindian admixed types (as long as they are light skin and not too "ethnic" Native American looking) would pass overall better in Central Asia I feel. Maybe among the some of atypical Mongoloid looking North African Berber types as well.

    Actually there are even a few MENAs who can even pass as Indomestizos or Amerindians like these individuals:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...a-Venezuelarl]
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...rapper-Soufian
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...movie-director
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...r-look-Mestizo (He is Iranian Turkmen)

    Here are the opposite versions: some rare Latinos who can pass in the NA-Afg region:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ootball-player
    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anth...lo-t45208.html


    This one can pass in South-Central Asian region (as Baloch and Sindhi according to lameduck)
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ss-in-Pakistan
    Last edited by Maguzanci; 11-11-2019 at 03:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    Doesn't look like a typical hazara, looks more like a Latino from south America. Hazaras, uzbeks and turkmens look distinctly central Asian.
    Since OP look atypical, how much in percentages would you estimate there are of Latino looking Hazaras/Uzbeks/Turkmens like him?

    Do you think he is pure Hazara or mixed with something else that results in this phenotype?
    Last edited by Maguzanci; 11-12-2019 at 11:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Interesting. Would there be more Northwest Indians who look pseudo-Latino than other Indians? What about Pakistanis?: would there be slightly more of them who can pass than Indians? I agreed that overall most South Asians look too distinct to pass though.

    Good point. I wager that some of those Latinos who show visibled Amerindian influences would pass best as atypical Central Asian types in the NA-Afg area like among some Turkic minorities in Afghanistan and parts of Iran I think. The conspicuously Amerindian admixed types (as long as they are light skin and not too "ethnic" Native American looking) would pass overall better in Central Asia I feel. Maybe among the some of atypical Mongoloid looking North African Berber types as well.

    Actually there are even a few MENAs who can even pass as Indomestizos or Amerindians like these individuals:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...a-Venezuelarl]
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...rapper-Soufian
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...movie-director
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...r-look-Mestizo (He is Iranian Turkmen)

    Here are the opposite versions: some rare Latinos who can pass in the NA-Afg region:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ootball-player
    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anth...lo-t45208.html


    This one can pass in South-Central Asian region (as Baloch and Sindhi according to lameduck)
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ss-in-Pakistan
    Yes, NW Indians have a higher chance of passing. Pakistanis have a higher chance of passing than most Indians as well. By the way. Also the Latinos who look most like North Africans or middle eastern are triracial from what I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    Yes, NW Indians have a higher chance of passing. Pakistanis have a higher chance of passing than most Indians as well. By the way. Also the Latinos who look most like North Africans or middle eastern are triracial from what I heard.
    Contemplating again, most conspicuously Amerindian admixed Latinos don't really pass in Central Asia even the ones with lighter skin.

    Its the same phenomenon vice versa; most Central Asians even the predominantly Caucasoid ones like Tajiks, Turkmens, etc. don't really pass/blend in Latin America barring some relatively atypical pseudo-Amerindian looking ones (mostly replicating pseudo-Andean types for some unknown reason).

    Its astonishing since both groups are predominantly a mixture of Western Eurasian and Eastern Eurasian ancestries but end up looking so different from one another.

    What is your opinion on this observation?

    Regarding your last sentence, where did you heard this fact from?
    Last edited by Maguzanci; 11-12-2019 at 12:53 AM.

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