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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    Maybe it will be interesting for you, for those who don't know Polish / Slavic languages.

    Germans -in Polish "Niemcy" which is derived from "niemy" which means mute / silent. So "Niemcy" are those who can't speak (Slavic).

    Italians - in Polish "Włosi", derived from "Wołosi" = Vlachs
    Włosi appears to be from the same celtic root meaning vulture that was adopted by the germans as the exonym for celts and romans due to the volcae tribe that they lived near who where named after this root, so the polish word for Italian is cognate with the english word welsh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glauk View Post
    Shqipëtar(albanian) - from the word shqiptoj( to pronounce clearly , to speak clearly, from the latin word Excipere) somebody who speak albanian, the termus probably started being used after the ottoman occupation
    I've heard it comes from shqipoj meaning the ones who speak clearly or from a dialectal form of shkabë meaning eagle, so the eagle people...

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    Romans: from etruscan rum 'teat' or 'of the flowing river (Tiber)'
    Germans: could be from a proto-germanic tribal name like Gair-maniz 'spear-men', or from a root related to the latin Germen 'sprout, shoot, origin', one of my own theories is that it comes from the proto celtic garyeti 'shout' + the verbal noun ending -man found in menman 'thought' as Garyoman or Gariman meaning 'those who shout'
    Celt: from greek Keltoi which may be from a celtic tribal name related to the root kellos 'a strike' and kellākos 'fight, war' possibly in the form Keltākos 'those who fight' or from the proto celtic root 'galnati' meaning 'to be able'
    Slav: from Slovenin which may mean 'people of the river' or from slawa 'those who speak (properly)'
    Hebrews: from 'ivray possibly meaning 'crossers' (of the river jordan? or of the red sea?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    Anglo-Saxons: people of the peninsula region + people of the seax(knife)
    If we follow up the question why the dagger / knife is called sax then I assume this to be derived from an IE word for stone, cf. Latin saxum for rock, stone. Why that? The predecessors of the iron and bronce daggers will have been flint daggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    If we follow up the question why the dagger / knife is called sax then I assume this to be derived from an IE word for stone, cf. Latin saxum for rock, stone. Why that? The predecessors of the iron and bronce daggers will have been flint daggers.

    it is thought to come from the PIE root sek-* meaning cut which also gave the Latin word saxum, but the germanic word is not borrowed from latin but rather a sister etymology

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