G25 Apricity West Eurasian PCA with new population averages

[Jana]

It's enough to see gap between Vojnik (slavic-speaking Macedonian), Impaler (south Romanian with Greek ancestry) vs Freeroostah (northern Greek)and MagnusDark (Albanian).
Bigger than between Tuscany and Northern Italy.

[Samnium]

It's enough to see gap between Vojnik (slavic-speaking Macedonian) and Freeroostah (northern Greek) and MagnusDark (Albanian).
Bigger than Tuscany and Northern Italy.

Well you haven't seen results from some N.Italians then. That show French average very near.

[Jana]

Yeah, Sephardic Jews and Serbians or Romanians are pretty far apart genetically within the context of Europe. Not sure they belong in the same continuum.

Lol, they surely don't.

[Samnium]

So why is Romania included but not Serbia? Seems like an arbitrary cutoff point.

I can cut off part of the cluster, greeks, italians and albanians aren't clearly the only people that make the East Med continuum.

Actually my picture wasn't to be taken as an exact map it was only a rapid draw to show approximately the East med continuum you are taking it too seriously lol.

[Ylla]

West Eurasian PCA

Euro PCA

Incredible that Hulu is plotting comfortably with Italians I haven't seen an Albanian plotting like that before

Edit: oh magnusdark too, very close to the Tuscan average

[Jana]

''East Med'' continuum


Just ignorance from western European who knows even fine scale difference between populations of his personal interest but has no problem to lump Sephardics and Serbs toghder (tip of the iceberg, those are two extremes)

[Samnium]

''East Med'' continuum


Just ignorance from western European who knows even fine scale difference between populations of his personal interest but has no problem to lump Sephardics and Serbs toghder (tip of the iceberg, those are two extremes)

The East Med continuum is proven by dozens of genetic studies my dear.

N.Italy isn't considered as an East Med population as Iberians aren't SE Euros.

What we can call a significant Levantine component (East Med if you want) begin in FIRENZE not in N.Italy.

If you see the distances between like ViaFluminia and the Tuscany sample that he's northern shifted, it's much more important than the distance between an albanian and a macedonian.

The Tuscan reference on k13 corresponds to what a northern Tuscan is, and he's distant to the N.Italian reference, many many N.Italians plot northern to this reference so imagine just the distance between these.

The regions that bridge the gap are Liguria and Emilia, that's all.

To finish the first MAP wasn't conceived to be very precise, I don't consider Serbians as an East Med population, it's you that are repeating for pages the same thing whereas I'm telling you that I made up rapidly.

It's not lumping up, you really don't know nothing about East Med genetics. W.Jews and other E.Med populations are more or less related by a common ANCESTRY.

[Daco Celtic]

I can cut off part of the cluster, greeks, italians and albanians aren't clearly the only people that make the East Med continuum.

Actually my picture wasn't to be taken as an exact map it was only a rapid draw to show approximately the East med continuum you are taking it too seriously lol.

Yeah, it's cool, I'm nitpicking a little. I think places with significant Slavic admixture are probably a good cut off point, like around Bulgaria, so I think you have it right with the latest one.

[Samnium]

Yeah, it's cool, I'm nitpicking a little. I think places with significant Slavic admixture are probably a good cut off point, like around Bulgaria, so I think you have it right with the latest one.

I think though that some Romanians might end up in the cluster, from what I've heard there are Romanians very north shifted and the averages might not be very representative. For example I doubt that North-Western Romanians will be similar to Southern ones.



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[Jana]

The East Med continuum is proven by dozens of genetic studies my dear.

N.Italy isn't considered as an East Med population as Iberians aren't SE Euros.

What we can call a significant Levantine component (East Med if you want) begin in FIRENZE not in N.Italy.

If you see the distances between like ViaFluminia and the Tuscany sample that he's northern shifted, it's much more important than the distance between an albanian and a macedonian.

The Tuscan reference on k13 corresponds to what a northern Tuscan is, and he's distant to the N.Italian reference, many many N.Italians plot northern to this reference so imagine just the distance between these.

The regions that bridge the gap are Liguria and Emilia, that's all.

To finish the first MAP wasn't conceived to be very precise, I don't consider Serbians as an East Med population, it's you that are repeating for pages the same thing whereas I'm telling you that I made up rapidly.

It's not lumping up, you really don't know nothing about East Med genetics. W.Jews and other E.Med populations are more or less related by a common ANCESTRY.

Lot of text for nothing.
Ofcourse I am aware of the fact N.Italians are SW Europeans. But it doesn't seem you are aware of the fact there is ocean of difference between Slavic speaking Macedonian and a Cretan, for instance.
They are simply not similar.