Slavic admixture in German samples on Global25

[Creoda]

Are you going to tell Davidski to put them under East German? That way the remaining Germans could be renamed West German.

[Peterski]

And now, do the same with Germans.

Average results for 87 Germans:
(I will add Imperial Romans too)



Germans sorted by % of Dutch:

[Jana]

yeah, i forgot that study was about the actual modern population of the Balkans.

it would be more interesting to see fst distances of the most unmixed European rural populations they could find.

Most studies just sample the largest cities. only those Romanian samples are from isolated mountain villages.

Yes, I agree.
PS does anyone have idea why I always have worst fit on Global 25 our of all east euro users? Ph2ter noticed that too.
I was playing with all kinds of models (using even 6-10 difference ancient populations), and never could lower the fit to very good distance.

Starting to think I have some genetic drift because of being 50% Islander.

[ph2ter]

Average results for 87 Germans:
(I will add Imperial Romans too)



Germans sorted by % of Dutch:

Now, add some African.

[Peterski]

After adding Imperial Rome & Latini averages new results:

43% Dutch
3% Belgian
1% Swiss
1% French
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23% Sorb
18% Celtic
6% Roman
5% Balkan*

*This can represent Rhaetians and similar populations.
(because this Balkan includes ancient Croatia/Dalmatia)

[vbnetkhio]

Yes, I agree.
PS does anyone have idea why I always have worst fit on Global 25 our of all east euro users? Ph2ter noticed that too.
I was playing with all kinds of models (using even 6-10 difference ancient populations), and never could lower the fit to very good distance.

Starting to think I have some genetic drift because of being 50% Islander.

maybe something is missing from all those models. you got that Dagestani admixture in your living dna results.

[vbnetkhio]

After adding Imperial Rome, average for 87 Germans:

41% Dutch
3% Belgian
1% Swiss
1% Alsace
======
25% Sorb
18% Celtic
6% Roman
5% Balkan*

*This can represent Rhaetians and similar populations.
(because this Balkan includes ancient Croatia/Dalmatia)

could you put just the Iron age Dalmatian instead of Balkan?

[Peterski]

could you put just the Iron age Dalmatian instead of Balkan?

I can but I will add Etruscans instead (they were closely related to Rhaetians in South Germany):

[Mr.G]

Yes, I agree.
PS does anyone have idea why I always have worst fit on Global 25 our of all east euro users? Ph2ter noticed that too.
I was playing with all kinds of models (using even 6-10 difference ancient populations), and never could lower the fit to very good distance.

Starting to think I have some genetic drift because of being 50% Islander.

And I can get freakishly close fits, Idk why. I think you may be onto something with the genetic drift idea.

[Peterski]

Removing Bulgaria and Bronze Age Croatia, using just Iron Age Dalmatia, did not change much.

Balkan just dropped from 5% to 4.5%. Etruscan is not preferred instead of Iron Age Dalmatian.